Boxing fans need to accept reality.

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DAZN wants their stars fighting on DAZN. ESPN wants their stars fighting on ESPN. Fox & Showtime want their stars fighting on Fox & Showtime.

DAZN's top stars aren't going to fight on ESPN or Fox/Showtime. ESPN's top stars aren't going to fight on DAZN or Fox/Showtime. PBC's top stars aren't going to fight on DAZN or ESPN.

A big star from one side of the street can get a non-star from the other side of the street to cross the street to fight them. A non-star from one side of the street might cross the street if it's a world title fight (or eliminator) and their side of the street lost the purse bid.

But that's about it. Stop fighting about it. Watch the fights that interest you. If one side of the street doesn't have fights that interest people, they'll go out of business.

Joint PPVs are going to be very rare exceptions. Two A-sides that can make wayyyyy more fighting each other than they can make fighting in house.

Crawford isn't a draw. Crawford vs. Spence does less buys than Pacquiao vs. Spence. Who is going to go through the hassle of a joint PPV when it's a smaller fight than the in house fight?

Wilder vs. Fury is way bigger than any fight PBC can make in house in that division and way bigger than any fight Top Rank can make in house in that division. So you get the rare exception of a joint PPV.

That's it. Otherwise stop crying.

[Sid-Knee]

DAZN wants their stars fighting on DAZN. ESPN wants their stars fighting on ESPN. Fox & Showtime want their stars fighting on Fox & Showtime.

DAZN's top stars aren't going to fight on ESPN or Fox/Showtime. ESPN's top stars aren't going to fight on DAZN or Fox/Showtime. PBC's top stars aren't going to fight on DAZN or ESPN.

A big star from one side of the street can get a non-star from the other side of the street to cross the street to fight them. A non-star from one side of the street might cross the street if it's a world title fight (or eliminator) and their side of the street lost the purse bid.

But that's about it. Stop fighting about it. Watch the fights that interest you. If one side of the street doesn't have fights that interest people, they'll go out of business.

Joint PPVs are going to be very rare exceptions. Two A-sides that can make wayyyyy more fighting each other than they can make fighting in house.

Crawford isn't a draw. Crawford vs. Spence does less buys than Pacquiao vs. Spence. Who is going to go through the hassle of a joint PPV when it's a smaller fight than the in house fight?

Wilder vs. Fury is way bigger than any fight PBC can make in house in that division and way bigger than any fight Top Rank can make in house in that division. So you get the rare exception of a joint PPV.

That's it. Otherwise stop crying.

Thanks for admitting your "Arguments" where not based in reality with all the ducking nonsense you said before.

Basically, you were paid for nonsense in which you admit to now.

But you don't care, you're a whore with no self-respect or dignity.

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Thanks for admitting your "Arguments" where not based in reality with all the ducking nonsense you said before.

If you're referring to Joshua, Wilder agreed to cross the street because Joshua was the much bigger star. Joshua still ducked the fight. That's totally different.

[aboutfkntime]

DAZN wants their stars fighting on DAZN. ESPN wants their stars fighting on ESPN. Fox & Showtime want their stars fighting on Fox & Showtime.

DAZN's top stars aren't going to fight on ESPN or Fox/Showtime. ESPN's top stars aren't going to fight on DAZN or Fox/Showtime. PBC's top stars aren't going to fight on DAZN or ESPN.

A big star from one side of the street can get a non-star from the other side of the street to cross the street to fight them. A non-star from one side of the street might cross the street if it's a world title fight (or eliminator) and their side of the street lost the purse bid.

But that's about it. Stop fighting about it. Watch the fights that interest you. If one side of the street doesn't have fights that interest people, they'll go out of business.

Joint PPVs are going to be very rare exceptions. Two A-sides that can make wayyyyy more fighting each other than they can make fighting in house.

Crawford isn't a draw. Crawford vs. Spence does less buys than Pacquiao vs. Spence. Who is going to go through the hassle of a joint PPV when it's a smaller fight than the in house fight?

Wilder vs. Fury is way bigger than any fight PBC can make in house in that division and way bigger than any fight Top Rank can make in house in that division. So you get the rare exception of a joint PPV.

That's it. Otherwise stop crying.

I pretty-much agree

the only thing is... I WILL hold the fighter responsible/accountable

immediately after he signed with Top Rank, my boy Tim Bradley said this... "due to boxing politics, I may never fight the best in the division"

as a result of that admission, I never really took him seriously at welter... I cannot in good conscience sing his praises... he never got the spotlight, which is why nobody EVER mentioned him fighting Mayweather... including his own promoter

Tim stagnated at Top Rank

I do not care about the ABC bullshlt, no way will I ever rank 1 fighter over another fighter based on the belt that they hold... "prestige" will not help you one little bit when you get in there with a real one... I rank guys in the same division by who I think will win head-to-head

right now I have Fury #1 at heavyweight... but that will change if Wilder continues to develop and fight top competition, and Fury continues to stagnate with Top Rank

I love Crawford, bud is top #2 P4P imo... but Spence is ranked ahead of him at welter, no question... unless Crawford fights top comp and Spence struggles with his comeback

I will only acknowledge the guys who take risks and make big fights... if guys CHOOSE to hide behind politics, they become irrelevant

but fair call, good post/thread

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immediately after he signed with Top Rank, my boy Tim Bradley said this... "due to boxing politics, I may never fight the best in the division"

as a result of that admission, I never really took him seriously at welter... I cannot in good conscience sing his praises... he never got the spotlight, which is why nobody EVER mentioned him fighting Mayweather... including his own promoter

It's the same reason I don't take Crawford seriously. Like Bradley, he chose to hide behind Top Rank/the WBO, while all the other top fighters in the division were on the other side of the street.

When the roles were reversed, and HBO had a monopoly on middleweight, Danny Jacobs crossed the street because that's where the action was at middleweight. Crawford has nobody to blame but himself for his situation.

I do not care about the ABC bullshlt, no way will I ever rank 1 fighter over another fighter based on the belt that they hold... "prestige" will not help you one little bit when you get in there with a real one... I rank guys in the same division by who I think will win head-to-head

It's not that you should rate a fighter higher or lower based on which title they hold, it's that we've historically seen that certain organizations have a better caliber of fighters. The WBC is the most valuable belt, so it's the belt that has the most top fighters going after it. If you're with Warren or Arum, of course you go for the WBO and if you're a great fighter, you're not any less great because you hold the WBO, but you will likely be facing weaker competition.

[Jax teller]

If you're referring to Joshua, Wilder agreed to cross the street because Joshua was the much bigger star. Joshua still ducked the fight. That's totally different.

When Wilder 'agreed' to cross the street he had a broken arm apparently.

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When Wilder 'agreed' to cross the street he had a broken arm apparently.

That's not true. Wilder accepted Hearn's offer in early June 2018 and fought Fury in early December 2018.

The broken arm occurred in late June.

[Jax teller]

That's not true. Wilder accepted Hearn's offer in early June 2018 and fought Fury in early December 2018.

The broken arm occurred in late June.

I'm supposed to believe there was a weeks difference? What are the odds of that.

[The Big Dunn]

I'm supposed to believe there was a weeks difference? What are the odds of that.

You believe whyte didn’t use PED’s before he was “cleared” so you should be able to believe the odds here.

Just sayin........

[OnlytheTruth]

DAZN wants their stars fighting on DAZN. ESPN wants their stars fighting on ESPN. Fox & Showtime want their stars fighting on Fox & Showtime.

DAZN's top stars aren't going to fight on ESPN or Fox/Showtime. ESPN's top stars aren't going to fight on DAZN or Fox/Showtime. PBC's top stars aren't going to fight on DAZN or ESPN.

A big star from one side of the street can get a non-star from the other side of the street to cross the street to fight them. A non-star from one side of the street might cross the street if it's a world title fight (or eliminator) and their side of the street lost the purse bid.

But that's about it. Stop fighting about it. Watch the fights that interest you. If one side of the street doesn't have fights that interest people, they'll go out of business.

Joint PPVs are going to be very rare exceptions. Two A-sides that can make wayyyyy more fighting each other than they can make fighting in house.

Crawford isn't a draw. Crawford vs. Spence does less buys than Pacquiao vs. Spence. Who is going to go through the hassle of a joint PPV when it's a smaller fight than the in house fight?

Wilder vs. Fury is way bigger than any fight PBC can make in house in that division and way bigger than any fight Top Rank can make in house in that division. So you get the rare exception of a joint PPV.

That's it. Otherwise stop crying.

In summary; Joint-PPV's aren't going to happen BUT joint-PPV's will happen, sometimes.

Accept it.