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  • #81
    He has been basically frozen out, that's the disappointing thing about PBC right now. But Crawford needs to get his promoter to force the hands of PBC. If Crawford had a better name or bring in better revenue from his own fights, then he wouldn't have needed those boxers. PBC tried to do the same thing to Joshua and Whyte with the help of Top Rank but they have not been able to succeed so far because Joshua doesn;t really need those guys from the other side. The more boxing fans condemn this sort of politics the better.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by hhh1200 View Post
      Fury Top Rank vs Wilder PBC
      Top Rank vs Ugas PBC order by WBA
      Crawford has fought 3 PBC fighters already
      Spence has been trying to fight Thurman since 2015, isn't getting the Manny fight.
      Porter, Thurman and Danny have been offered similar guarantees to Khan $5mil plus upside to fight Crawford. PBC fighters continue to turn them down vs taking PBC cherry-picks. Checked Danny next opponent?

      What makes you think Crawford gets the fights if he was over at PBC? They have him fighting 1 time a year just like their current WelterWaits.

      Worst generation of Welterwaits in the history of boxing excluding Crawford!
      He's the only highly touted welterweight that doesn't have a quality welterweight win. He's P4P #1 and has done nothing for the last 2 years but crush cans. Pacquiao, Thurman, Spence, and Porter just all fought each other with unifications up for grabs while Crawford was on the outside talking about how everyone was running from HIM. Crawford didn't fight Pacquiao when they were with the same promotion, but of course that's because the legendary Manny Pacquiao was afraid, or Arum hid him from Crawford (after feeding him to Horn), or something else. Everyone is managing to pair up with each other and fight, but not Crawford. Everyone is just scared of him.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Ray* View Post
        He has been basically frozen out, that's the disappointing thing about PBC right now. But Crawford needs to get his promoter to force the hands of PBC. If Crawford had a better name or bring in better revenue from his own fights, then he wouldn't have needed those boxers. PBC tried to do the same thing to Joshua and Whyte with the help of Top Rank but they have not been able to succeed so far because Joshua doesn;t really need those guys from the other side. The more boxing fans condemn this sort of politics the better.
        people actually think like this?

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
          60/40 Joshua was a fair split for the fight Fall 2018; doubt that that's even arguable.

          And, if Wilder's camp really did front Anthony Joshua $50m, 50/50 against $50m to Anthony Joshua was fair as well.

          Talks happen today, on an honest deal, a fair split on the fight is like between 60/40 Joshua and 55/45 Joshua, with the fight held in the United States.

          If you're still on that flat fee nonsense, that's on you.
          DAZN dont do percentage splits, their service dont work like that, this isnt PPV. Also DAZN offered more than plenty money for those fights. If Haymon and Finkel felt it does more under their control on PPV they should of made a counter offer instead of just walking away.

          But if they want it on PPV then they can kiss goodbye to that DAZN money, Matchroom aint doing that and they already offered a 60-40 split for 2 fights, 1st one in America. When you see the difference in value from Joshua to Wilder its massive, you have to admit it. So 60-40 is fair. Will be by some distance Wilders career high pay out and seeing as the gap is so big between them 60% to AJ is more than fair to Wilder.

          Like ive already said. If Team Wilder thinks that is lowball material then come back with a counter offer instead of just standing there as a massive B side with your hand out asking for more and more money.

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          • #85
            These fights are going to happen. Sounds like Thurman might be first which is a great move. He's got a win over Porter and a close loss to PAC. Will give us some clarity into this division.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
              DAZN dont do percentage splits, their service dont work like that, this isnt PPV. Also DAZN offered more than plenty money for those fights. If Haymon and Finkel felt it does more under their control on PPV they should of made a counter offer instead of just walking away.

              But if they want it on PPV then they can kiss goodbye to that DAZN money, Matchroom aint doing that and they already offered a 60-40 split for 2 fights, 1st one in America. When you see the difference in value from Joshua to Wilder its massive, you have to admit it. So 60-40 is fair. Will be by some distance Wilders career high pay out and seeing as the gap is so big between them 60% to AJ is more than fair to Wilder.

              Like ive already said. If Team Wilder thinks that is lowball material then come back with a counter offer instead of just standing there as a massive B side with your hand out asking for more and more money.
              You just said that DAZN doesn't do percentage splits, and then said right after that Eddie Hearn already offered 60/40, lol.

              Which is it?

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                You just said that DAZN doesn't do percentage splits, and then said right after that Eddie Hearn already offered 60/40, lol.

                Which is it?
                60-40 was not a DAZN offer it was a Matchroom offer. It came well before the 100 million DAZN offer. Im sure that included Wilder fighting on his own network in America.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
                  DAZN dont do percentage splits, their service dont work like that, this isnt PPV. Also DAZN offered more than plenty money for those fights. If Haymon and Finkel felt it does more under their control on PPV they should of made a counter offer instead of just walking away.

                  But if they want it on PPV then they can kiss goodbye to that DAZN money, Matchroom aint doing that and they already offered a 60-40 split for 2 fights, 1st one in America. When you see the difference in value from Joshua to Wilder its massive, you have to admit it. So 60-40 is fair. Will be by some distance Wilders career high pay out and seeing as the gap is so big between them 60% to AJ is more than fair to Wilder.

                  Like ive already said. If Team Wilder thinks that is lowball material then come back with a counter offer instead of just standing there as a massive B side with your hand out asking for more and more money.
                  The last known offer to Wilder was $40m for the Joshua fight, not knowing what Joshua's piece was and the recent Joshua-Ruiz situation making quite likely for Wilder to not see a piece of the gate or the UK/Mexico/non-DAZN money.

                  Joshua already received a verified offer for $50m or 50% of the take (whichever was higher) for Wilder's camp to stage the show, and he refused.

                  Counter for what?

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                    The last known offer to Wilder was $40m for the Joshua fight, not knowing what Joshua's piece was and the recent Joshua-Ruiz situation making quite likely for Wilder to not see a piece of the gate or the UK/Mexico/non-DAZN money.

                    Joshua already received a verified offer for $50m or 50% of the take (whichever was higher) for Wilder's camp to stage the show, and he refused.

                    Counter for what?
                    What does he need to know what DAZN want to give to Joshua? Hes either offered a good amount of money or he isnt. Considering what we know he has been getting throughout his career it seems a good amount of money. DAZN is not splitting a pot here they have offered to pay Wilder way beyond his market value to fight Joshua. So what if Joshua is getting more? What has that got to do with Wilder? What a nosey wanker.

                    Counter for what? Counter to try make this fight happen. They said they turned it down cuz they wanted to do it on their network. They wanted millions to watch Wilder KO AJ which wouldnt happen on an app. Well Hearn, AJ or DAZN cant make an offer FROM the PBC, the PBC need to do that. And they didnt.

                    And that 50 million joke offer came before all this and it didnt come with any paperwork. What kind of offer comes without a single word from the fighters managment? Hearn asked for it and he was refused it. That offer has nothing to do with the DAZN refusal and it was a joke offer anyway.

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                    • #90
                      Bud is trying to blame his Joe Blow fights on PBC!! Unc and Arum don’t wanna help feed each other’s families and the whole boxing world knows this!! Bud never got the memo or what?!?

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