Comments Thread For: Joshua: If Wilder Wants Name in History Books - Come See Us!

[FlyingFJ]

I think AJ continues the route of the cautious Wlad Klit boxing school.
No idea what Hearn will plan for him...

It seems like we will not see an undisputed heavyweight in near future.

[FreezeIzGawd]

Wow that's some list of excuses. Wilders been in this game twice as long as Joshua, there are no excuses. Remember when finkel could of made wlad v wilder but said wilder was just a baby and there was no need to rush him? Yeah wilder had had over 30 fights at that point and was a champion.

From that moment on all it has been is excuse after excuse for why wilder hasn't fought a number of top heavies. It's never wilders fault there's always an excuse.

And then you get the likes of Joshua, fury, ruiz, they have all moved past him, they have all accomplished more and are all getting paid more.

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All accomplished more.....

There is only ONE UNDEFEATED HW CHAMPION right now....

ONE!!!

There is only one HW CHAMPION WITH TEN DEFENSES......

ONE!!!

There is only one HW with a 95% KO RATE......

ONE!!!

Only one HW has knocked down EVERY SINGLE FIGHTER HE HAS FACE.....

AND KOed all but ONE.....

ONE!!!

You guys make up facts but in the end what have they accomplished that is soooooo much greater than Wilder

[FreezeIzGawd]

Joshua offered Ortiz the fight in NY back in June but his camp declined the offer.

Look at the timeline of Tyson Fury and you tell me when Joshua was supposed to fight him?

28th November 2015 - Fury Beats Klitschko
8th April 2016 - Rematch with Klitschko scheduled for 9th July. Never happened.
24th June 2016 - Fury v Klitschko postponed because of ankle injury and a mysterious UKAD case
23rd September 2016 - Fight postponed again because Fury was medically unfit
12th October 2016 - Fury vacates titles
13th October 2016 - BBBofC suspends Fury's license.
12th April 2018 - Announces 3 fight deal with QBP before the end of 2019.
9th June 2018 - Fights Sefer Seferi
18th August 2018 - Fights Francesco Pianeta
18th August 2018 - Frank Warren confirms Wilder fight
1st December 2018 - Fights Wilder
February 2019 - Announces 5 fight ESPN deal - to fight solely in the US
15th June 2019 - Fights Tom Schwarz
14th September 2019 - Fights Otto Wallin
4th October 2019 - Appears on WWE

So, please, tell me where in that 4 year period where Joshua was supposed to fight Fury.

I'll wait.

So not only has Joshua fought the guys you listed (You know, the ones Wilder hasn't) but the ones you then used as a comparator declined to fight or wasn't available to fight.

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

BWAWAWAWAWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Okay let’s recap.

You are discrediting what I was saying about why Wilder hasn’t fought certain fighters like for THE FIGHTERS FAILING DRUG TEST (PED-ventic) and just straight running from him (PARKER)

BUT

You say Ortiz was offered a fight ( same as Parker) and Fury was too busy fighting guys in ONE SIZED LEOTARDS but that’s a viable reason.

Okay.

How about we BOTH admit the truth AJs so-called VASTLY superior fighting opposition record is not as extremely one sides as his fans try to make it appear AND Wilder was ducking a lot of the top competition EARLIER in his career because he felt he wasn’t ready.

See 2 things can be correct without either side being wrong.

All I am saying is as of late. The last 3 years you cannot say Wilder hasn’t fought anyone because HIS fights have been against better opponents

[OnlytheTruth]

BWAWAWAWAWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Okay let’s recap.

You are discrediting what I was saying about why Wilder hasn’t fought certain fighters like for THE FIGHTERS FAILING DRUG TEST (PED-ventic) and just straight running from him (PARKER)

BUT

You say Ortiz was offered a fight ( same as Parker) and Fury was too busy fighting guys in ONE SIZED LEOTARDS but that’s a viable reason.

Okay.

How about we BOTH admit the truth AJs so-called VASTLY superior fighting opposition record is not as extremely one sides as his fans try to make it appear AND Wilder was ducking a lot of the top competition EARLIER in his career because he felt he wasn’t ready.

See 2 things can be correct without either side being wrong.

All I am saying is as of late. The last 3 years you cannot say Wilder hasn’t fought anyone because HIS fights have been against better opponents

I will agree with you that Wilder's opponents have been better, as of late - apart from fighting Ortiz again and calling it something it really wasn't. It was trash but it got him a highlight reel KO.

But seriously, when in that 4 year timeframe would Joshua and Fury have fought? You only focused on the WWE part because it suited your argument. Not Joshua's (or Wilder's, for that matter) fault that Fury wasn't available.

You focusing on PED users also doesn't fly as both Ortiz AND Fury have both popped dirty.

Ortiz openly admits that his camp was wrong to decline the offer...so yes, its 100% Ortiz and his team why Joshua and Ortiz haven't fought.

I would really like to see when Parker and Wilder were in discussion for unification though. Can't ever remember seeing that.

[JakeTheBoxer]

If Ruiz can ko AJ...I'd hate to see what Wilder would do.

If Rahman could have stopped Lennox, Holyfield and Mike Tyson also could...or...wait..

[FreezeIzGawd]

I will agree with you that Wilder's opponents have been better, as of late - apart from fighting Ortiz again and calling it something it really wasn't. It was trash but it got him a highlight reel KO.

But seriously, when in that 4 year timeframe would Joshua and Fury have fought? You only focused on the WWE part because it suited your argument. Not Joshua's (or Wilder's, for that matter) fault that Fury wasn't available.

You focusing on PED users also doesn't fly as both Ortiz AND Fury have both popped dirty.

Ortiz openly admits that his camp was wrong to decline the offer...so yes, its 100% Ortiz and his team why Joshua and Ortiz haven't fought.

I would really like to see when Parker and Wilder were in discussion for unification though. Can't ever remember seeing that.

https://www.fightsports.tv/wilder-ch...-summer-fight/

[chicken-]

Why does Wilder struggle then in just about every fight with no fast knock out if its so easy and against inferior opposition ,no one close to Povetkin and Ruiz caliber guys under 6'3 ? He does have longer arms and height then AJ right ? HA

Stiverne was out for 2 years that's his claim to fame with anything remote AJ is being critized here for and he couldn't knock an in shape Stiverne out the first time . Wilder himself fights scared and doesn't engage and is tentative to throw high volume so who is he to critique a high level boxing display? Ha

Wilder struggles because he literally has 1 punch and that's all he's trying to land. Nobody is claiming Wilder is a better boxer than AJ, we just know AJ has no chin and can't stay conscious if Wilder manages to land that 1 punch, which given AJ's terrible defense and lack of head movement I'd say is a guarantee unless AJ lands first and knocks out Wilder which is always possible. My money is on AJ's chin not holding up to shots that he might even block due to his terrible ear-muff defense. He can't run from Wilder for 12 rounds like he did vs the 300 pound cheeseburger walrus. Wilder broke his hand or arm in the first Stiverne fight, and nobody cares that he beat an out of shape stiverne the second time, it was more the way he did it. He hit that bum so hard that he thought he was hit in the back of the head LOL.

AJ took 8 rounds to beat Brazeale. Wilder knocked him out in Round 1 with 1 punch. Wilder went 12 rounds with the best heavyweight and was 1 millisecond away from being awarded the knockout.

AJ's claim to fame is beating a 2 year out of the ring 42 year old Klitchko who had already been ****'d in front of the world by Fury. AJ barely escaped being knocked out in that fight. That and beating a disgustingly out of shape, already fat turd is not impressive to anyone except idiots like you.

[REDEEMER]

Wilder struggles because he literally has 1 punch and that's all he's trying to land. Nobody is claiming Wilder is a better boxer than AJ, we just know AJ has no chin and can't stay conscious if Wilder manages to land that 1 punch, which given AJ's terrible defense and lack of head movement I'd say is a guarantee unless AJ lands first and knocks out Wilder which is always possible. My money is on AJ's chin not holding up to shots that he might even block due to his terrible ear-muff defense. He can't run from Wilder for 12 rounds like he did vs the 300 pound cheeseburger walrus. Wilder broke his hand or arm in the first Stiverne fight, and nobody cares that he beat an out of shape stiverne the second time, it was more the way he did it. He hit that bum so hard that he thought he was hit in the back of the head LOL.

AJ took 8 rounds to beat Brazeale. Wilder knocked him out in Round 1 with 1 punch. Wilder went 12 rounds with the best heavyweight and was 1 millisecond away from being awarded the knockout.

AJ's claim to fame is beating a 2 year out of the ring 42 year old Klitchko who had already been ****'d in front of the world by Fury. AJ barely escaped being knocked out in that fight. That and beating a disgustingly out of shape, already fat turd is not impressive to anyone except idiots like you.

That’s a lie ,Wilder struggles because his skill set abilities don’t go past two punch combinations. The other poster said it was easy to fight shorter guys with such an advantage and Wilders only failed knockout was to an in shape Stiverne who is below the 6”3mark ,so again if AJ is struggling why doesn’t the same apply for Wilder and against inferior fighters ? This is the argument once again the demented fan base makes . Oh that’s right because he wants to lose the rounds on purpose knowing he will win anyway,oh wait Tyson Fury ? Ha

The rest you said matters little after February a lot of crying will be done on here , trust me . Ha

[MisterPullman]

Wilder struggles because he literally has 1 punch and that's all he's trying to land. Nobody is claiming Wilder is a better boxer than AJ, we just know AJ has no chin and can't stay conscious if Wilder manages to land that 1 punch, which given AJ's terrible defense and lack of head movement I'd say is a guarantee unless AJ lands first and knocks out Wilder which is always possible. My money is on AJ's chin not holding up to shots that he might even block due to his terrible ear-muff defense. He can't run from Wilder for 12 rounds like he did vs the 300 pound cheeseburger walrus. Wilder broke his hand or arm in the first Stiverne fight, and nobody cares that he beat an out of shape stiverne the second time, it was more the way he did it. He hit that bum so hard that he thought he was hit in the back of the head LOL.

AJ took 8 rounds to beat Brazeale. Wilder knocked him out in Round 1 with 1 punch. Wilder went 12 rounds with the best heavyweight and was 1 millisecond away from being awarded the knockout.

AJ's claim to fame is beating a 2 year out of the ring 42 year old Klitchko who had already been ****'d in front of the world by Fury. AJ barely escaped being knocked out in that fight. That and beating a disgustingly out of shape, already fat turd is not impressive to anyone except idiots like you.

Solid points.

[uppercut510]

we are back to square one... the fight aint happening for at least 3 more fights..