AJ Ruiz 2 Sky PPV ALONE generates $30mil more than Wilder Ortiz FOX PPV!

[Jax teller]

Jax would you accept a meeting knowing AJ has 2 mandos he must take care of? AJ says he wants wilder and wants to be undisputed. You and I know both are not possible in the next year because if he fights wilder, he loses the IBF or WBO title. He loses the WBO as soon as he signs the Pulev deal.

As for offers, again AJ is the bigger draw and has 2 mandos. He has every right to make whatever demand he wishes. He knows AJ is not a big deal in the US. If he can negotiate a 50% deal, good for him.

Face it the most money for both guys is a USA PPV that airs on PPV in England.

Regarding meetings we are talking about what has actually happened not what's gonna happen, don't try and spin it.

If AJ's a bigger draw why Wilder getting 50% derp derp.

If they wanted could run it to Saudi and get bigger site fees than the Ruiz fight which was anywhere between 50-100 mil and more get massive UK PPV figures due to better time difference. Probably beating US figures.

Why is AJ/Hearn gonna help Haymon here and put it on his network when they're the A-side by your admission and have their own allignments?

LMAO you're basically admitting Haymon is blocking Wilder from getting generational wealth because he won't let him fight on another network even though his supposed to be free.

US PPV is trash Wilder only got 200-300,000 each for his last two fights you lot keep telling us AJ is less known than Wilder this fight would be lucky to get 800,000.

I don't know why you want to pay $100 for the fight instead of $20 Haymon aint gonna give you a refund for support.

[The Big Dunn]

Regarding meetings we are talking about what has actually happened not what's gonna happen, don't try and spin it.

If AJ's a bigger draw why Wilder getting 50% derp derp.

If they wanted could run it to Saudi and get bigger site fees than the Ruiz fight which was anywhere between 50-100 mil and more get massive UK PPV figures due to better time difference. Probably beating US figures.

Why is AJ/Hearn gonna help Haymon here and put it on his network when they're the A-side by your admission and have their own allignments?

LMAO you're basically admitting Haymon is blocking Wilder from getting generational wealth because he won't let him fight on another network even though his supposed to be free.

US PPV is trash Wilder only got 200-300,000 each for his last two fights you lot keep telling us AJ is less known than Wilder this fight would be lucky to get 800,000.

I don't know why you want to pay $100 for the fight instead of $20 Haymon aint gonna give you a refund for support.

Wilder would get that much because in America AJ is not that big a draw.

That wouldn't work because the fight wouldn't be in prime time in the USA, thus cutting the potential revenue. You aren't going to generate maximum revenue unless it is in the USA during prime time.

Hearn's fighter makes far more money that way. PPV isn't going to help PBC assuming AJ wins, which I do. He goes back to dazn.

You have to look at it that way. Athletes turn down huge deals all the time. Wilder/Haymon don't want to cede control, no different than Hearn. Haymon just happens to be in America and the fight will make far more here. Just the reality of things.

If it gets 800k on ppv here, at $74.99 minimum, plus the 2 mil plus PPV's in England, that is a massive take for AJ, probably over $150 mil.

The price of the fight is irrelevant because I will have a fight party and recoup whatever the cost. I also don't have to worry about any streaming issues or glitches.

[Jax teller]

Wilder would get that much because in America AJ is not that big a draw.

That wouldn't work because the fight wouldn't be in prime time in the USA, thus cutting the potential revenue. You aren't going to generate maximum revenue unless it is in the USA during prime time.

Hearn's fighter makes far more money that way. PPV isn't going to help PBC assuming AJ wins, which I do. He goes back to dazn.

You have to look at it that way. Athletes turn down huge deals all the time. Wilder/Haymon don't want to cede control, no different than Hearn. Haymon just happens to be in America and the fight will make far more here. Just the reality of things.

If it gets 800k on ppv here, at $74.99 minimum, plus the 2 mil plus PPV's in England, that is a massive take for AJ, probably over $150 mil.

The price of the fight is irrelevant because I will have a fight party and recoup whatever the cost. I also don't have to worry about any streaming issues or glitches.

How many tickets were sold by Wilder in his last fight and how many were sold by AJ when he cam to the US? Don't forget the AJ tickets were more expensive BTW.

You have a party and charge people, WTF? That sh't is cheap. LMAO $75 is still more than $20 no matter how you split them, imagine if you all split the DAZN cost you could share a few extra crates.

Also is or isn't Wilder the bigger draw because this is what you're basing him not making offers on? One minute he's the bigger draw in the USA where the fight makes all them money the next no he shouldn't be making offers AJ is the A-Side.

[The Big Dunn]

How many tickets were sold by Wilder in his last fight and how many were sold by AJ when he cam to the US? Don't forget the AJ tickets were more expensive BTW.

You have a party and charge people, WTF? That sh't is cheap. LMAO $75 is still more than $20 no matter how you split them, imagine if you all split the DAZN cost you could share a few extra crates.

Also is or isn't Wilder the bigger draw because this is what you're basing him not making offers on? One minute he's the bigger draw in the USA where the fight makes all them money the next no he shouldn't be making offers AJ is the A-Side.

Yes, AJ brought over a ton of British fans to MSG.

I wouldn't split the dazn cost. Also, casual US fans don't care about AJ. They care more about Wilder, as I am sure it is the other way in England.

I never claimed wilder was the bigger draw, I posted US fans don't care about AJ. Iys the same with Fury-put him in with Wilder you get a massive card, put him in with bums and no one in the US cares.

[BoxingVirus25]

I'm happy the fight did well

[BoxingVirus25]

I'm glad the fight did well

[Falkano]

Yes, AJ brought over a ton of British fans to MSG.

I wouldn't split the dazn cost. Also, casual US fans don't care about AJ. They care more about Wilder, as I am sure it is the other way in England.

I never claimed wilder was the bigger draw, I posted US fans don't care about AJ. Iys the same with Fury-put him in with Wilder you get a massive card, put him in with bums and no one in the US cares.

Didn't the New York fight have 5m illegal streams in the US?
Compared to 1.9m for Fury Wilder?

[UNBANNED]

GBP and Hearn running things. The LDBC hate the fact.

What the hell is LDBC??

Hallelujah mayne.

Estrada vs. Sor Rungvisai II, Cancio vs. Machado, Canelo vs. Jacobs, Ramirez vs. Hooker, De La Hoya vs. Rios, Cancio vs. Machado II, Ortiz vs. Orozco, Joshua vs. Ruiz, Taylor vs. Prograis, Canelo vs. Kovalev, Inoue vs. Donaire, Joshua vs. Ruiz II, Jacobs vs. Chavez Jr. all for $100.

Wilder vs. Ortiz II for $75.

It’s not rocket science mayne.

I pay $100 with no complaints. On my phone I can watch ANY SECOND, MINUTE, ROUND, OR FIGHT of ANY CARD at ANY TIME using DAZN.

Either that...or watch one event live and...that's that.

Yeah, if you need someone to "point it out" for you...its not even worth the conversation

[Ray*]

I know AJ had about 10 more amateur fights than Wilder and he was more successful, winning Gold while Wilder won bronze. that is why I said it is superior.

I don't post like that in any way. At no point have I posted or implied his resume is based solely on bums. Added to that, I have consistently posted how his resume is superior to Wilder's. There is no way you haven't seen that.

If he decides to take the wlad route and hide in Europe then the division and the sport as a whole loses. While AJ generates more, the US remains the fight capital. It will not help the sport if the perception of the fans in the biggest boxing market is a guy is afraid to fight where he got KTFO. That perception hurt the sport and the HWT division for years.

America is still the top market for boxing, so no one would expect Wilder to leave. same way you wouldn't expect Messi or Ronaldo to go to MSL soccer, or the top Rugby player in the world to leave New Zealand, or the top cricket batsman to leave India or England. I don't see how anyone can disagree with this point.

People are not content. They wanted Wilder/Fury 2 but Fury ran away and signed with TR. They wanted Wilder/Ruiz if he beat AJ in the rematch.They want Wilder/AJ.

AJ says he wants WIlder but he also says he wants all the belts and we know he has mandatory fights to get out of the way. The question is after AJ defends against Pulev and then fights Usyk (after he wins the vacant WBO title) will AJ fight Wilder?

I sure hope so.

You have truly become delusional. Joshua can hide in Europe just like Wladimir did because they are the men of the division.

Wilder doesn’t generate what both of them generates, Wilder isn’t Mike Tyson so he is the one that you need to accuse of hiding in America.

As soon as he stop hiding and leaves America for Europe then his pay packet doubles instantly.

Wilder and Joshua had similar amateur backgrounds with 7 fights difference between them two. Still Joshua has done more and achieved more than Wilder in the short space of time, with less fights altogether (Amateur and pro).

Just like Mayweather didn’t have to leave America, Wladimir and Joshua don’t have to leave Europe, if you think those two are hiding in Europe then you surely must think Mayweather was hiding in America and Wilder is definitely hiding there too.

The onus is still on Wilder to fight Joshua, he purposely booked himself out on the eve on the June 1st fight because he didn’t want any pressure from Joshua calling him out.

Even when Fury ducked him and when you think he would then accept a Joshua fight he ducked 100m claiming he was betting on himself by taking less money.

After Ruiz lost on Saturday what were Wilder’s own words? The fight would never happen - Wilder .

You use to be one of the best posters on here, you truly went the other way with your trolling.

[The Big Dunn]

You have truly become delusional. Joshua can hide in Europe just like Wladimir did because they are the men of the division.

Wilder doesn’t generate what both of them generates, Wilder isn’t Mike Tyson so he is the one that you need to accuse of hiding in America.

As soon as he stop hiding and leaves America for Europe then his pay packet doubles instantly.

Wilder and Joshua had similar amateur backgrounds with 7 fights difference between them two. Still Joshua has done more and achieved more than Wilder in the short space of time, with less fights altogether (Amateur and pro).

Just like Mayweather didn’t have to leave America, Wladimir and Joshua don’t have to leave Europe, if you think those two are hiding in Europe then you surely must think Mayweather was hiding in America and Wilder is definitely hiding there too.

The onus is still on Wilder to fight Joshua, he purposely booked himself out on the eve on the June 1st fight because he didn’t want any pressure from Joshua calling him out.

Even when Fury ducked him and when you think he would then accept a Joshua fight he ducked 100m claiming he was betting on himself by taking less money.

After Ruiz lost on Saturday what were Wilder’s own words? The fight would never happen - Wilder .

You use to be one of the best posters on here, you truly went the other way with your trolling.

I know AJ can hide in Europe, I am hoping he chooses not to.

Wilder didn't get KTFO by an obscure European. Had he, then you could say he is hiding. Wlad hid after getting KTFO. Lets hope AJ, after getting KTFO, doesn't do same.

Again, I have never posted or implied Wilder was on AJ's level or had his resume. I am not sure why you keep stating this.

Floyd (nor wilder) didn't suffer a KO loss to an obscure, mid level, weak opponent like AJ and Wlad did. Had he, then you'd be comparing things evenly. They are hiding in europe because another KO loss like that hurts the career.

We know why he didn't sign with dazn. Old news. As for the fight now, AJ has 2 mandos to take care of right? SO his saying "I'm ready for wilder" is BS because we all know he has Pulev and then the WBO defense.

I still believe I am one of the best posters. Not trolling in any way. If AJ hides and doesn't come back to the US then the division and the sport are damaged. Did you forget how the division was viewed when wlad was on the top fighting predominantly european bums?

What benefit does the sport get when the man that is supposed to be the baddest man on the planet is viewed by casual North American fans as a guy with a weak chin too afraid to fight Americans?