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  • llll
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    #31
    Originally posted by Curtis Harper
    AJ made adjustments. Simple
    That doesn't answer my question: of how ruiz beating an in shape joshua and joshua beating an out of shape ruiz proves that joshua is a better fighter.

    last I checked, beating a fighter who was ready to fight is more legitimate of a victory than beating an obese 283 pound 6 footer who didn't train.

    Objectively.

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    • kidbazooka
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      #32
      Originally posted by ikigai
      Can you explain how Ruiz beating an in shape joshua, and joshua beating an out of shape ruiz proves that joshua is a better fighter?

      How did you come to that rationalization?

      Looking at it logically, the second fight was more of a fluke than the first fight.
      Exactly

      But these Brits are flat out delusional they will runaway with the win and act like the first fight never happened.

      Never met such scary group of boxing fans like these Brits.

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      • Curtis Harper
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        #33
        Originally posted by ikigai
        That doesn't answer my question. Of how ruiz beating an in shape joshua and joshua beating an out of shape ruiz proves that joshua is a better fighter.

        last I checked, beating a fighter who was ready to fight is more legitimate of a victory than beating an obese 283 pound 6 footer.

        Objectively.
        At no point in the 1st fight did I SEE Andy winning via dec.
        After the knockdown, my thought was more solid.
        And then AJ MADE A ROOKIE MISTAKE.
        Ruiz didn't do anything special other than throw a punch to a face that was begging for it.

        Even then, as I said before. It took Andy some time, some questionable punches and an impatient ref to end things.

        If you were impartially impressed by Andy's fat guy fighting style, I can't argue/debate that. You like what you like.

        For me, his hands aren't ''fast''. They're opportunistic. He found a spot on AJ's head (not necessarily his jaw) that AJ was unable to overcome. He was up before the count of 10, looking the ref dead in his eyes....

        AJ made adjustments that would have beaten any version of Andy, imHO. Which is what we are both going by.

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        • Curtis Harper
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          #34
          Originally posted by kidbazooka
          Exactly

          But these Brits are flat out delusional they will runaway with the win and act like the first fight never happened.

          Never met such scary group of boxing fans like these Brits.




          .......

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          • JakeTheBoxer
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            #35
            Ruiz has the dumbest corner I have ever seen. What the hell was their advise, like, invite Joshua to fight in last 10 seconds?

            In ninth round it was obvious Ruiz needed a KO for win. he didn`t even try.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Curtis Harper
              At no point in the 1st fight did I SEE Andy winning via dec.
              After the knockdown, my thought was more solid.
              And then AJ MADE A ROOKIE MISTAKE.
              Ruiz didn't do anything special other than throw a punch to a face that was begging for it.

              Even then, as I said before. It took Andy some time, some questionable punches and an impatient ref to end things.

              If you were impartially impressed by Andy's fat guy fighting style, I can't argue/debate that. You like what you like.

              For me, his hands aren't ''fast''. They're opportunistic. He found a spot on AJ's head (not necessarily his jaw) that AJ was unable to overcome. He was up before the count of 10, looking the ref dead in his eyes....

              AJ made adjustments that would have beaten any version of Andy, imHO. Which is what we are both going by.
              Well there you go, you just proved without any doubt you don't know how to score a fight.

              First round- Joshua landing nothing but a few jabs. His best punc of the round was a jab at 10 seconds left in the round

              Ruiz Clearly outlanded joshua with a couple hooks, jabs the head and body, a hook counter. His best punch was a left hook with 20 seconds left in the round.


              Second round- Joshua threw almost nothing, landed almost nothing except a right hand around the 1 minute mark

              Ruiz landed multiple hooks, a left hook counter, a couple jabs and his best punch was an overhand right that clearly staggered joshua within 30 seconds of the round.


              No respectable boxing fan who isn't blind could give joshua those two rounds. That is fact.

              How do you give the round to joshua who did nothing and was clearly outlanded by ruiz?

              Last edited by llll; 12-09-2019, 02:50 AM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by ikigai
                Well there you go, you just proved without any doubt you don't know how to score a fight.

                First round- Joshua landing nothing but a few jabs. His best punc of the round was a jab at 10 seconds left in the round

                Ruiz Clearly outlanded joshua with a couple hooks, jabs the head and body, a hook counter. His best punch was a left hook with 20 seconds left in the round.


                Second round- Joshua threw almost nothing, landed almost nothing except a right hand around the 1 minute mark

                Ruiz landed multiple hooks, a left hook counter, a couple jabs and his best punch was an overhand right that clearly staggered joshua within 30 seconds of the round.


                No respectable boxing fan who isn't blind could give joshua those two rounds. That is fact.

                How do you give the round to joshua who did nothing and was clearly outlanded by ruiz?

                Soooo.....you gave Andy those rds ?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  Imagine fighting a guy in a rematch after you boxed to a points win, am I right?

                  Oh wait, we saw Wilder vs Stiverne.
                  Cant go a post with out mentioning the guy just come out of the closet and admit you like Wilder bruv

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                  • llll
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Curtis Harper
                    Soooo.....you gave Andy those rds ?
                    Andy clearly won the first 2 rounds. That's not arguable or debateable.

                    If you don't know how to score a fight, we have nothing left to discuss.

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                    • LacedUp
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Phenom
                      Cant go a post with out mentioning the guy just come out of the closet and admit you like Wilder bruv
                      Have I ever said I don't like him? No I haven't. Some of the things he said are downright delusional but in the ring, he's a great fighter.

                      But the double standards and the delusional crap you guys write is just downright dumb.

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