Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua - What Happens If It Happens Again?

[The Boston Hera]

Drugs are bad

This is what happens when you buy the hype. One is medicated by their idiocy/naivety. Or one is getting paid to continue the hype via modification. Personally I think it's the latter. Joshua worked hard to get where he was. But he was maneuvered deftly. Klitch was over the hill and the rest of his resume is mediocre. He was steered away from Wilder for ten years. Then knocked out by Ruiz, who was agreed upon ONLY because it was thought he was another bum.That is his legacy.

[Jax teller]

This is what happens when you buy the hype. One is medicated by their idiocy/naivety. Or one is getting paid to continue the hype via modification. Personally I think it's the latter. Joshua worked hard to get where he was. But he was maneuvered deftly. Klitch was over the hill and the rest of his resume is mediocre. He was steered away from Wilder for ten years. Then knocked out by Ruiz, who was agreed upon ONLY because it was thought he was another bum.That is his legacy.

"Steer away from Wilder for 10 years" yet he's only been a pro for 5 years.

"Drugs are bad"

[adeathnote]

This is what happens when you buy the hype. One is medicated by their idiocy/naivety. Or one is getting paid to continue the hype via modification. Personally I think it's the latter. Joshua worked hard to get where he was. But he was maneuvered deftly. Klitch was over the hill and the rest of his resume is mediocre. He was steered away from Wilder for ten years. Then knocked out by Ruiz, who was agreed upon ONLY because it was thought he was another bum.That is his legacy.

The guy won olympic gold and picked up every belt in the division. I'd say the hype is/was warranted. Ruiz is simply a really tough matchup for him physically, thats really all there is to it. For comparisons, I think Wilder would have an easier time with Ruiz and Joshua would have an easier time with Wilder.

[Dariusz]

If he loses again to that little fat guy he should retire. Especially if he loses by a KO. There are too many weak champs in HW today. He, together with drug cheats as Povetkin or Whyte and weak guys like Pulev or Breazeale should be removed from the top list of contenders in HW. Too many belts and too many false champs.

[OnlytheTruth]

If he loses again, he's David Price-level.

I must have missed Price's time as a unified World Heavyweight Champion.

[OnlytheTruth]

This is what happens when you buy the hype. One is medicated by their idiocy/naivety. Or one is getting paid to continue the hype via modification. Personally I think it's the latter. Joshua worked hard to get where he was. But he was maneuvered deftly. Klitch was over the hill and the rest of his resume is mediocre. He was steered away from Wilder for ten years. Then knocked out by Ruiz, who was agreed upon ONLY because it was thought he was another bum.That is his legacy.

Swings and Roundabouts. Wilder was PUBLICALLY swerved well clear of Klitschko by Shelly Finkel, so that's deft manoeuvring as well because its lead to Wilder having an even worse resume but being a World Champion.

I'd like to know the definition of 'hype by modification' and how that relates to Joshua.

[OnlytheTruth]

If he loses again to that little fat guy he should retire. Especially if he loses by a KO. There are too many weak champs in HW today. He, together with drug cheats as Povetkin or Whyte and weak guys like Pulev or Breazeale should be removed from the top list of contenders in HW. Too many belts and too many false champs.

That's just ridiculous. Why would Joshua retire when he could still KO 90%+ of the HW division?

There is divided opinion as to whether Joshua can beat Wilder and Fury. Those are the other names in the hat as being #1 in the division. So if you are better than 90% of the division, lose once but still potentially beat Wilder, please explain why on earth Joshua should retire if he loses?

[Dariusz]

That's just ridiculous. Why would Joshua retire when he could still KO 90%+ of the HW division?

There is divided opinion as to whether Joshua can beat Wilder and Fury. Those are the other names in the hat as being #1 in the division. So if you are better than 90% of the division, lose once but still potentially beat Wilder, please explain why on earth Joshua should retire if he loses?

Here you are -- because he will never trust in himself after second serious beating from the same guy who is not anyone special, between us; of course, he can fight exhibitions matches for earning money but IMO he will never regain confidence to fight seriously for belts.
A subjective opinion of mine.

[OnlytheTruth]

Here you are -- because he will never trust in himself after second serious beating from the same guy who is not anyone special, between us; of course, he can fight exhibitions matches for earning money but IMO he will never regain confidence to fight seriously for belts.
A subjective opinion of mine.

I think its more confidence regression, because all people are fickle and confidence comes and goes, subjectively and objectively.

Hypothetically, if he took a step back in his career and beat the likes of a Whyte or a Breazeale type again, he would quickly be back in contention for a world title, based on the WBC rankings, that is. Or at least an eliminator. Its gone full circle then.

[Dariusz]

I think its more confidence regression, because all people are fickle and confidence comes and goes, subjectively and objectively.

Hypothetically, if he took a step back in his career and beat the likes of a Whyte or a Breazeale type again, he would quickly be back in contention for a world title, based on the WBC rankings, that is. Or at least an eliminator. Its gone full circle then.

Here I agree with you fully. But Joshua wanted to be like Lewis who wished the Rahman 2 rematch as soon as he could as he was very confident rthat he will regain the title. The truth is that losing for second time with the same guy is very bad for weak psyche, so to speak.
Lewis did correct thing, Joshua -- we shall see, but if he loses imagine what would have Lewis looked like if Rahman (smaller and physically weaker) KOed him again.