Wilder is for real, I admit... but...

[Vinnykin]

Everything is possible but we shall never know until they fight. At least Kownacki will not be afraid like others and will try to maul Wilder from the 1st second. Wilder has never faced that much punches per round so far.

Fair enough Dariusz...... Kownacki is a high-volume fighter against other slow-footed fighters.... this is a 6'7 KO artist with fast footwork and high mobility we are talking about though..... unlike anything we have seen before...... Kownacki will be stretchered by Wilder.... he is too slow.

[Monzon99]

Nobody is allowed to hurt, to pressure, to beat Wilder. Everyone is hired to play soft. Ortiz is the latest hired patsy. Is anyone ****** enough to believe Haymon would have risked Wilder vs Ortiz if Ortiz was still controlled by Hearn? NO WAY.

Wilder's opponents all look like Floyd opponents, play soft and under control to let the protected asset win.

[Vinnykin]

I can't think of anyone that can do it then. Wilder can virtually go undefeated his entire career fighting like this.

I think Wilder Kryptonite is A pressure fighter that tries to land bombs..... Chisora or Povetkin come to mind instantly and is why I said in my OP that I would be mocked for saying it.

Put Wilder in with a fully fit and motivated Chisora who is coming to destroy him..... (I do not rate Chisora but he will come to land bombs on Wilder at least)

His trainers and managers will never allow this though...

[koolkc107]

It's much easier said than done.

Boxers are human beings too and when they feel that explosive power on their gloves there is a tendency to not want to run towards that too regularly.

You don't wanna get timed by a guy that hits like that, and crowding him or pressing him makes that much more likely.

[Vinnykin]

Nobody is allowed to hurt, to pressure, to beat Wilder. Everyone is hired to play soft. Ortiz is the latest hired patsy. Is anyone ****** enough to believe Haymon would have risked Wilder vs Ortiz if Ortiz was still controlled by Hearn? NO WAY.

Wilder's opponents all look like Floyd opponents, play soft and under control to let the protected asset win.

It's why I said he has been ingeniously managed in my OP. Wilder has avoided every fighter that can actually win, and has the style to beat him...... this 40+ and 0 champion has never been in a fight.... he got buzzed by Ortiz in their first fight and treats it like an epiphany like an up and coming boxer would, a learning fight

[Vinnykin]

lol...chisora or povetkin would get knocked out even quicker than most of these guys....wallin? now hes a boogeyman because of the fury fight? lol

Styles make fights..... Fury did not become a shiat fighter overnight.... he can beat Chisora easily but had trouble with Wallin..... Chisora did not pressure him for 12 rounds and tried to box, had no answer and retired..... Wallin threw caution to the wind.

Do I think Wallin is a great boxer.... no..... do I think he had the perfect gameplan and got lucky with the cut? yes.

My point is that I want to see 1 fighter adopt the same mentality and style vs Wilder.... just one.

[HarvardBlue]

I think Wilder Kryptonite is A pressure fighter that tries to land bombs..... Chisora or Povetkin come to mind instantly and is why I said in my OP that I would be mocked for saying it.

Put Wilder in with a fully fit and motivated Chisora who is coming to destroy him..... (I do not rate Chisora but he will come to land bombs on Wilder at least)

His trainers and managers will never allow this though...

I'm sorry, both Chisora and Povetkin would suffer the same fate as the rest. Chisora is way past his prime and wasn't that good in the first place. Povetkin wouldn't get past Wilder's long reach. If Fury can stay focused on boxing he has the best shot but that's still a lot to ask.

[Vinnykin]

I'm sorry, both Chisora and Povetkin would suffer the same fate as the rest. Chisora is way past his prime and wasn't that good in the first place. Povetkin wouldn't get past Wilder's long reach. If Fury can stay focused on boxing he has the best shot but that's still a lot to ask.

You say that as fact.... but we both know it is BS. You have no idea how Chisora has changed or even Povetkin.... you are just going by past performances...... never do that in boxing.

Chisora and Povetkin are very savvy operators at this point, Chisora would throw the kitchen sink at Wilder..... he would also be punching down and facing a guy with head movement, trying to get inside and land bombs.

I think it is a bad style for Wilder to face..... you will say he is above Chisora and KO him..... his managers and handlers will never put him in that fight when Chisora does not give a shiat about getting KO'd and will come forward throwing bombs.......same with Povetkin.

[Vinnykin]

It's much easier said than done.

Boxers are human beings too and when they feel that explosive power on their gloves there is a tendency to not want to run towards that too regularly.

You don't wanna get timed by a guy that hits like that, and crowding him or pressing him makes that much more likely.

Wilder has 40+ fights and has never came across that style.... we don't even know if he can fight inside.

Are you claiming this is all because of his power? literally every boxer on Earth has faced this at some point, bar Wilder..... is it because of power OR..... because he has been well managed?

[QueensburyRules]

I have always been critical of Wilder's boxing ability, even harsh and disparaging towards him, caught up in my own bias...... I now see the method to his boxing and how ingeniously he has been managed.

Wilder is good and manages to get KO's and wins against either over-matched, or slow, straight-up fighters who try to box him from the outside.

I am a Fury fan and spent the whole fight against Wilder screaming at him to go inside on this guy, pressure him, lean on him etc He did outbox him but got caught twice and gave Wilder the draw in his backyard, which was always going to happen. OK, it wasn't the best Fury and took him 4 rounds to shake the rust off, but Wilder got his two KD's which is fair.

Why do people who fight Wilder stay in the danger zone and never make sudden and explosive moves on him? pressure him inside? Fury didn't do it because he was not 100% and tried to beat him at his own game, got caught twice and gave Wilder the draw..... Ortiz, Spzilka .... they all end up the same - crumpled on the floor!

I might be laughed at in the comments to this particular comment, but I have never seen any one put it on Wilder and pressure him, take away his range and punch and drag himself into a dogfight...... Chisora or Wallin or Povetkin style.... someone who comes forward and just tries to land bombs........

I need to see Wilder in against an opponent who will pressure him, stay on his chest and take away his distance.... put it on him, is fast, explosive..... it is the only way to beat him other than Fury outboxing him and dodging his punch for 12 rounds (which no one would put money on including myself).

Ortiz was absolute Dogshiat in there... do not be fooled by the scorecards which makes him out to have done well.... Wallin did better in losing rounds than Ortiz did winning them..... slow as treacle, both hands and feet.... no pressure at all..... just pitty-pat boxing and let Wilder box comfortable for 6 rounds until Wilder landed a nuke on his dome lol

- -Ortiz comfortable easily outboxing Deyonce until Bayliss pulled the plug.

Deyonce always needs the ref in his pocket for elite KOs.