Ryder was INFLUENCED by Canelo's Performance, Here's WHY Ryder won CLOSE

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    Ryder was INFLUENCED by Canelo's Performance, Here's WHY Ryder won CLOSE

    Influenced by an A Game and nullification. At the very worst a DRAW, Run it Back, but if people are honestly content with Smith's performance than so AM I! Bring Smith vs Canelo next!

    Many of us last night scoring and bigging up Ryder to the Championship rounds KNEW the cards would be close, acknowledging Hearn's need for Smith for BJS, Andrade or Jacobs, BUT I HONESTLY wasn't expecting a UD that wide imo.

    Ryder NULLIFIED Smith with this!

    1.) Ryder did A class Fundamentals to bringing both guards up AFTER throwing his, blocking much of Smith's counterpunching.

    2.) Ryder was in the PERFECT position, range, where Smith couldn't take advantage of his range.

    3.) Great head movement by Ryder and defensive slickness, Smith missed a lot of sequential shots (combos).

    4.) Ryder followed up with his right hand jab bobbling Smith's head back at close range counters.

    5.) Body Work on the ropes!

    6.) Made Smith miss so much he faded in the second half while Ryder was well conditioned and pressing the action.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Young Bidness
    Influenced by an A Game and nullification. At the very worst a DRAW, Run it Back, but if people are honestly content with Smith's performance than so AM I! Bring Smith vs Canelo next!

    Many of us last night scoring and bigging up Ryder to the Championship rounds KNEW the cards would be close, acknowledging Hearn's need for Smith for BJS, Andrade or Jacobs, BUT I HONESTLY wasn't expecting a UD that wide imo.

    Ryder NULLIFIED Smith with this!

    1.) Ryder did A class Fundmentals to bringing both guards up ATFTER throwing his, blocking much of Smtih's counterpunching.

    2.) Ryder was in the PERFECT position, range, where Smith couldn't take advantage of his range.

    3.) Great head movement by Ryder and defensive slickness.

    4.) Ryder followed up with his right hand jab bobbling Smith's head back at close range counters.

    5.) Body Work on the ropes!

    6.) Made Smith miss so much he faded in the second half while Ryder was well conditioned and pressing the action.
    Ryder was doing what Ryder does, man, he wasn't trying to do Canelo. Naturally there's a few similarities but in the main only those that result inevitably from being a short stocky guy who's regularly fighting dudes a fair bit taller.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #3
      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
      Ryder was doing what Ryder does, man, he wasn't trying to do Canelo.
      Stopped reading here. This is the year of the upsets. I said, influenced as in nullifying what Smith had, nullifying the lankiness. Smith didn't even land his hail mary hooks when tied up, kept missing.

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      • Citizen Koba
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        Originally posted by Young Bidness
        Stopped reading here. This is the year of the upsets. I said, influenced as in nullifying what Smith had, nullifying the lankiness. Smith didn't even land his hail mary hooks when tied up, kept missing.
        No, man, your points were just fine... not a bad breakdown at all of why John was so successful. What was silly was attributing his success to imitating Canelo in some way as if John wasn't using the well established techniques employed by shorter fighters forever.

        You gonna tell us Canelo invented the techniques needed for success for short stocky dudes, now? I mean, yes he's an elite fighter, for sure, but I don't think he's got a time machine. Yet.

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #5
          Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
          No, man, your points were just fine... not a bad breakdown at all of why John was so successful. What was silly was attributing his success to imitating Canelo in some way as if John wasn't using the well established techniques employed by shorter fighters forever.

          You gonna tell us Canelo invented the techniques needed for success for short stocky dudes, now? I mean, yes he's an elite fighter, for sure, but I don't think he's got a time machine. Yet.
          I don’t think you understand what “influence” means vs “Ryder copied Alvarez’s technique and here’s why the points have no relevance to Canelo vs Kovalev.”

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            #6
            Originally posted by Young Bidness
            I don’t think you understand what “influence” means vs “Ryder copied Alvarez’s technique and here’s why the points have no relevance to Canelo vs Kovalev.”
            Ha ha. And I think you're just trying to bring Canelo's name into something that really has only the most tangential relationship to him cos that's your job.

            You really seriously trying to claim that John would have fought even the slightest bit differently if Canelo hadn't fought Kovalev till next month? I mean, there's reaching and there's reaching, man.
            Last edited by Citizen Koba; 11-24-2019, 07:53 AM.

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              #7
              Which performance?
              The one with Glovkin 2, or the Kovalev one?

              I'd say many fighters were influenced by his surprising showing
              in the Glovkin 2 fight.

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