Thoughts on Wilder's power/boxing ability

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  • Boxing_1013
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    Thoughts on Wilder's power/boxing ability

    I don't think his 1 shot power is necessarily in a league of its own...all-time that is...but pfp, his right hand is about as good of a shot as any, ever, imo...but there are others in the same league I think...Jackson, Hitman etc...but if you took 50 top punchers ever and measured their punch, I don't think Wilder's would be off the charts tbh.

    I think a big part of what makes Wilder so special with his power is with his height/athleticism it is hard to back him up and keep him off balance...so essentially the danger is always there for the right hand to come in clean.

    Basically very rarely in his fights is someone really backing him up and not allowing him to load up on that right hand...part of why it is so good is because he is always looking for it...he is just always trying to keep his positioning to land that right hand, and with his physical attributes (size, athleticism, reach) it is pretty easy for him to stay in position.

    He doesn't try to do anything else usually because he knows he doesn't need to...if you can't really back him up, you are fighting his fight...he will just walk around with you for 12 rounds and know that at some point he will be able to load up...and when he loads up it is usually over.
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    Someone quick/strong that could get inside on him would probably be a nightmare for him...a prime Tyson comes to mind on that since someone else just made a thread about it...I think that would be all wrong for Wilder.

    I can't really think of anyone at HW right now though that has anything close to that kind of speed/quickness to get inside...Ortiz is a decent example of that but imo his main problem is his age and also the fact that as a lefty he is always a sitting duck for that straight right hand and Ortiz just couldn't take that one tonight.

    Basically watch the difference between Mike Tyson's power when he fought Buster...and then all of his other fights around that time...Buster's jab kept him at bay and negated a lot of his power...but if you let Mike get inside and load up, well your head might come off.

    It is similar with Wilder I think but a bit on the inverse...his athleticism just allows him to stay loaded up with that right hand basically all night...he knows from that position all he needs is to land it once or maybe a few times.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Boxing_1013
      Someone quick/strong that could get inside on him would probably be a nightmare for him...a prime Tyson comes to mind on that since someone else just made a thread about it...I think that would be all wrong for Wilder..
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        So yeah I don't think he is that 'bad' of a boxer...I think he just knows his best route to victory, and he is really gifted athletically to almost always keep himself in position...that is very very hard to do in a fight/boxing match...would love to see him in a with a guy similar to what Tyson was...who could get inside and really make him box off his heels more...Ruiz maybe? With that belly I just end up overlooking him...but he may be the toughest matchup for Wilder at the moment.

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          Lol...anyone who saw a prime Mike Tyson would not be posting that gif

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          • MisterPullman
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            #6
            Originally posted by Boxing_1013
            Lol...anyone who saw a prime Mike Tyson would not be posting that gif
            He was good.

            But sorry to disappoint. He'd lose.

            Fighters back then were using PEDs heavily. At least compared to todays boxing world.

            Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis

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            • DaNeutral.
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              Power is amazing. Skills below average. His power is his get out of jail card. without it nobody would of even heard of him. Everybody out boxes him so prime powerful fighters that can Box and put you down have been kept away from Wilder his whole career. And if you strongly disagree then please list the people ive forgotten about off his resume.

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              • DeanoFlash
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                Underestimated aspects of Wilder's portfolio are his defensive reflexes, his solid chin, his impressive stamina, his patience, his usage of the pawing jab

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                  You need to step to a puncher, especially someone who needs that space to step into and load up on that right hand. The way Ward fought Allan Green would be a perfect way for someone to step to Wilder. He wouldn't know what to do with someone on the inside

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                    Someone quick/strong that could get inside on him would probably be a nightmare for him...a prime Tyson comes to mind on that since someone else just made a thread about it...I think that would be all wrong for Wilder.

                    I can't really think of anyone at HW right now though that has anything close to that kind of speed/quickness to get inside...Ortiz is a decent example of that but imo his main problem is his age and also the fact that as a lefty he is always a sitting duck for that straight right hand and Ortiz just couldn't take that one tonight.

                    Basically watch the difference between Mike Tyson's power when he fought Buster...and then all of his other fights around that time...Buster's jab kept him at bay and negated a lot of his power...but if you let Mike get inside and load up, well your head might come off.

                    It is similar with Wilder I think but a bit on the inverse...his athleticism just allows him to stay loaded up with that right hand basically all night...he knows from that position all he needs is to land it once or maybe a few times.
                    I think Tyson is overrated period. Don’t get me wrong I think that’s a compliment because that means people like him, as opposed to being underrated. Tyson never liked to fight out of clinches, he often looked to the ref to split them up. Tyson liked that bit of distance to slam into a guy with a 1-2. But grappling and fighting inside was never something he really did. Certainly not when u compare him to someone like Holyfield. Tyson liked to slam in and then look to get separated. I don’t doubt he’d be trouble for anyone early. But Mikes is more generic with 1-2s than dynamic with multiple punches in my opinion. If he was as good as a lot of people say he was, well then he shoulda been better than he was right? A young Mike would be tough, but still Wilder would hold the KO shot advantage in my humble opinion.

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