Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder Knocks Luis Ortiz Out in Seventh

[D4thincarnation]

well there are reasons why other don't want to fight him. and its not cause hes boing. or 40...

Think you will find Joshua offered him the fight when the Miller fight fell through, but Ortiz turned it down.

Why are you listening to Wilder's lies?

[Don Pichardo]

Think you will find Joshua offered him the fight when the Miller fight fell through, but Ortiz turned it down.

Why are you listening to Wilder's lies?

I’d like to read about that. Searched and didn’t find it.

Just cause an offer was made doesn’t mean it was a serious or valid offer.

[D4thincarnation]

I’d like to read about that. Searched and didn’t find it.

Just cause an offer was made doesn’t mean it was a serious or valid offer.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxin...r-eddie-hearn/

I came back and said, ‘Right, this is it, $7million for June 1. [If he wins, he gets] a rematch for quite a bit more and if he loses, I’ll give you another fight for a lot of money for security.’

Matchroom Boxing chief Hearn predicted “King Kong” will now wait for a rematch against Wilder, 33, who he only earned £766,380 against when he fought him before - “seven times” less than he was offered to fight AJ.

He added: “Not only were you offered $7million, but you tried to out us in

[QueensburyRules]

Probably because they actually watched the fight and saw him lose those rounds as opposed to judging a fight based off inaccurate punch stats.

- -Most horrid punch stats ever, a bunch of drunks!

[daggum]

well there are reasons why other don't want to fight him. and its not cause hes boing. or 40...

what others? joshua just tried to fight him and he parlayed that into staying with pbc for the same amount. even whyte said he would fight him if it made him mandatory but wbc said no to that and gave it to breazele because hes with pbc i mean because he beat molina

[saintpat]

let's not dance around the topic..
there's been this whole
wilder/pbc/ldbc vs aj/eddie hearn/matchroom brits thing built up...by the black racist/xenophobes in the US and most prob because of al haymon himself.

if you're not part of that then I take back what ive said, but it's what usually comes up when i do criticise wilder.

i'll give you an example of how this type of mentality from that group manifests itself

a while back, Eddie Hearn became the promoter of Daniel Jacobs. He did an interview talking about how most americans dont know about Daniel jacob's backstory (the cancer, being told he'll never walk again). He said that the only thing to do is to talk and tell people about it.
He then gave Wilder as an example, eg that people don't know who he is (the implication being that the only way they will is if people TALK more about him). The interviewer (ifl's kugan) challenged eddie's view that 'not that many people know who he is in america', Eddie proved it by asking random people in new york (in the same video) if they've heard of Wilder.

Instead of this going out as a positive point by Eddie, it was instead perceived as 'omg the white devil is hating on wilder' and so that became the defacto narrative around wilder.
this rivalry you're imagining has been conjured up by these people.

What i learnt from that and after that was that there's an al haymon and shelly finkle agenda that's obsessed with owning eddie hearn's US venture and 'controlling boxing'. Eg when finkle said 'went wilder knocks out aj and ends matchroom boxing EMPIRE'. he just revealed his deepest darkest desire..prob burnt effigies of eddie hearn at home.
these are the people wilder has around him. not looking out for wilder directly, but obsessed with eddie and thus aj.

wilder himself would be far better off without those type of people.
you think im crying because wilder won? he was supposed to win..i just expected a less obvious fix than the one i saw.
this whole al haymon thing is a joke too
like ruiz 'al haymon is the reason why im where im at now because he gave me the chance vs dimitrenko and everything happened after that'
wow..these guys are controlled on another level.
he got the aj fight after begging eddie hearn on insta, who responded..whilst al haymon won't even talk to eddie hearn.

Cool story bro.

Eddie is proud of you.

[Don Pichardo]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxin...r-eddie-hearn/

Thanks for the article. It perked my interest as I couldn’t see why Ortiz would reject 7 mill for 5 times less. I recognize hyperbole when I see it.

Apparently the offer was made 30 days before the scheduled fight. Ortiz was a replacement for miller (who). 40 year old Ortiz would have been in no condition to fight joshua in 30’days.

Luis Ortiz may be on Eddie Hearn’s shortlist to face WBA/WBO/IBF/IBO champion Anthony Joshua on June 1st, but it seems his initial offers came up short.

While Ortiz team refuted any sort of deal last week, Ortiz’ lead-promoter, Jorge Carmenante told Boxing Scene he was insulted by an offer to replace Jarrell Miller.

“After 5 days of BS we declined all of Hearn’s lowball offers and we are tired of his games. I know the magnitude of this fight. I wasn’t going to let Hearn bully me. Especially when I know they need Luis l. I mean who else could they really have to fight and that the public was willing to pay for?” Carmenate said on a story published on Tuesday.

https://www.fightsports.tv/ortiz-pro...-for-aj-fight/


Ortiz got paid a lot more than what ever Hearn was claiming. About 7 mill. Without the time pressure and second choice status.

Wilder vs. Ortiz 2 fight purse, prize money
Wilder will make at least $3 million, while Ortiz's payout begins at $1.5 million, per Yahoo's Kevin Iole. But according to an ESPN report (via Forbes), Wilder will end up with closer to $20 million, and Ortiz $7 million.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxi...v1eosn9y4yrha7

So yes yiur right there was an offer made by Joshua to fight Ortiz. But we can also say that he really didn’t want to fight Ortiz at that time.

I’ll green you if I can for this info. Thanks

[Don Pichardo]

what others? joshua just tried to fight him and he parlayed that into staying with pbc for the same amount. even whyte said he would fight him if it made him mandatory but wbc said no to that and gave it to breazele because hes with pbc i mean because he beat molina

I just posted in this thread about joshuas offer. Is an offer 30 days before a fight for a overweight 40 year old a valid offer. I think Ortiz needs more time than that. And it was a replacement offer. He wanted to fight miller but couldn’t. So was it Hearn or joshua that wanted that fight?

I have to admit I’ve lagged behind on heavy weights these days. Not as interested. So these names miller and whyte don’t jump out at me. When I see a heavy weight fight. Ortiz name is not being called out. Now that could be disinterest because of money issues. But I believe it’s the fact that he’s a heavy fisted giant that can box.

Last heavyweight fights in recent memory, fury and joshua I can’t say I recall Ortiz being brought up.

[QueensburyRules]

Thanks for the article. It perked my interest as I couldn’t see why Ortiz would reject 7 mill for 5 times less. I recognize hyperbole when I see it.

Apparently the offer was made 30 days before the scheduled fight. Ortiz was a replacement for miller (who). 40 year old Ortiz would have been in no condition to fight joshua in 30’days.

Luis Ortiz may be on Eddie Hearn’s shortlist to face WBA/WBO/IBF/IBO champion Anthony Joshua on June 1st, but it seems his initial offers came up short.

While Ortiz team refuted any sort of deal last week, Ortiz’ lead-promoter, Jorge Carmenante told Boxing Scene he was insulted by an offer to replace Jarrell Miller.

“After 5 days of BS we declined all of Hearn’s lowball offers and we are tired of his games. I know the magnitude of this fight. I wasn’t going to let Hearn bully me. Especially when I know they need Luis l. I mean who else could they really have to fight and that the public was willing to pay for?” Carmenate said on a story published on Tuesday.

https://www.fightsports.tv/ortiz-pro...-for-aj-fight/


Ortiz got paid a lot more than what ever Hearn was claiming. About 7 mill. Without the time pressure and second choice status.

Wilder vs. Ortiz 2 fight purse, prize money
Wilder will make at least $3 million, while Ortiz's payout begins at $1.5 million, per Yahoo's Kevin Iole. But according to an ESPN report (via Forbes), Wilder will end up with closer to $20 million, and Ortiz $7 million.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxi...v1eosn9y4yrha7

So yes yiur right there was an offer made by Joshua to fight Ortiz. But we can also say that he really didn’t want to fight Ortiz at that time.

I’ll green you if I can for this info. Thanks

- -Sporting Pheeewwee News now is it?

Any relation to Sporting Women?

[saintpat]

- -Sporting Pheeewwee News now is it?

Any relation to Sporting Women?

Sporting News is owned by the people who own DAZN lol.