Why do certain posters only focus on Haymon and PBC and want it to fail?

[Curt Henning]

i'm a hater of the way they operate like a cult, with a load of idiotic black israelite types and kemetic types supporting them and hating the competition in the corniest ways.

i'm a hater becaue al haymon defrauded $600m+ from investers via some shady moves via that investment fund.


with justified arguments...
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2019/9/2...on-boxing-news

wilder was earning $2m vs ortiz only 1.5 yrs ago. hisd earnings only increased due to AJ's presence. Wilder doesnt have that.
crawford only did 150k ppv buys vs khan. the ww's dont do massive numbers compared to what floyd did. that's because they have a ****/dodgy advisor.

everyone knows spence is getting more money than his base purse...and its been explained to everyone why haymon pays his bigger stars in side money......it was widely reported that while spences base for the mikey garcia fight was 3 that he earned around 8.....why would the porter fight be different....i guess youre another one of those clowns who doesnt believe in the pbc "side money" because it just "doesnt exist"....even though its been explained to you many times that it does and why it does

lol@spence earning just 2.5 for the porter fight...anyone who believes that isnt worthy of my time

[Articulateboxin]

I always post how Boxing Fans are Miserable F#CKING PEOPLE!

Failures want everybody else to FAIL just like they have FAILED in LIFE! Not just talking about those who hate all things PBC but also the people who hate all things DAZN and Top Rank!

You're not a Boxing Fan, you're some bitter lonely mentally challenged weirdo on a forum thinking that by you posting negative stuff about them on this forum Daily is making some sort of impact. Thinking that your Opinion is the end all be all in the sport of boxing and that what you post on this forum will somehow be seen by Promoters and Fighters and that they will listen to you

My stance always been...as a boxing fan and most importantly for the sake of the men who get in that ring and put their life on the line literally WE NEED THEM ALL to succeed. I live in America so I don't care WTF is going on in other countries but I know in America, boxing is not in the best space right now, in fact the popularity seems to be rapidly declining...well unless 2 Youtubers are doing it. So the more we have Networks and Apps investing into the sport, you would think the better but not on this forum full of obviously FAKE Boxing Fans

It is a difference between being a "Fan Of Boxing" compared to being just a "Fan Of A Boxer" it is a lot of people who are just "Fans Of Boxers" and/or just Fans Of Boxers who are of the same Race, Ethnicity, Nationality, Religion and a bunch of other BS that has ZERO to do with fighters actual skills in that ring

Oh I green'd the shiz out of this!

I made a thread similar to this a few days back, "choosing a side" just seems like such an enormous waste of great boxing. Why limit yourself to 1, when you can enjoy all of it

[Inspired]

everyone knows spence is getting more money than his base purse...and its been explained to everyone why haymon pays his bigger stars in side money......it was widely reported that while spences base for the mikey garcia fight was 3 that he earned around 8.....why would the porter fight be different....i guess youre another one of those clowns who doesnt believe in the pbc "side money" because it just "doesnt exist"....even though its been explained to you many times that it does and why it does

lol@spence earning just 2.5 for the porter fight...anyone who believes that isnt worthy of my time

That sounds like tax dodging, fraud btw.
Still i've got to laugh at you insisting Spence was paid 'side money' when you have no proof or anything credible suggesting that. Before Dazn, it was normal for your ave champion outside of the big ppv stars, to earn around that much esp when they don't have a big fanbase. Look at Andre Ward's earnings. The only big money came from super fights.
Why did keith thurman allow himself to get ****d with the dodgy antics of pacquaio eg no drug testing...for $5m?
f Wilder was only getting $1m a fight and then $2m vs ortiz only a year and a half ago, why should Spence suddenly be picking up more? is he a bigger star than Wilder?


Fyi, when i responded 'im a hater because'...i'm not a hater of pbc/al haymon per se but i guess i can play devil's advocate here and point certain things out..since you're already projecting the hater tag onto me. It's more because of the nonsense I have to read from guys like you.

So what exactly are we discussing here? You're response about Spence and Porter's purse, is not really the primary point I was making.

It should not matter diddly squat about whether Andrade is better off with dazn or pbc..what should matter is that he holds a belt, Jermall holds a belt..and they should fight. They are more on the same level. It makes sense.
I don't want to know about the past contexts. There's no need to be bitter he signed with a white promoter.

The whole idea of 'controlling boxing' is something you guys have projected via your american race wars.



As for spence vs mikey garcia purse. That came when Eddie hearn was making offers to all these guys. pbc overpaid both these guys and they lost money.
what did the garcia vs keith thurman, or porter vs thurman, or garcia vs porter fights generate? what did the purses look like?
Thurman got $1.5m, porter got $1m as an example.

my main point about the money is about the way you diss the views generated or money received by boxers..whenever it suits you narrative of dismissing cross promotion fights.
like 'oh why should he be given a chance by pbc? no, let him rot on dazn doing **** numbers and **** money' which is because you're the real hater.
the facts are these pbc guys don't generate big money or views either. the fact is the current climate of poor ppv numbers is down to the way al haymon ****ed with his matchmaking for yrs.
bob arum in comparison, was dodgy in so many other areas, but he knew how to build up profiles and make the sport interesting. the entire LWW to SMW divisions looked healthy because bob did things like fix oscar's loss to felix trinidad. these contexts led to great fights getting made which in turn built a new generation of super ppv boxers.
al haymon is not a true promoter..and pbc doesnt have real promoters. schaeffer and ellerbe are not real promoters.

al haymon has certainly put on quality fights in the past few yrs. porter might just be my fav pbc boxer...but the sport has failed to reach new heights because of al haymon controlling everything and not working with other promoters.

in fact the promotional rivalries are stories that help entertain the fans..
all these discussions..are part of that.
we're only having these convos because eddie hearn came to the US though. if it wasnt for that, right now top rank and gbp would be toast.
when dazn came in with serious money, espn (also being ***ish helps since dazn are ***ish) followed suit in order to put serious pressure on pbc.
take eddie hearn out of the equation and al haymon/pbc would have monopolised the sport and given us trash. the fights they have and will put on are due to the added pressure of competition. they cant get away with those days of putting the likes of danny garcia in crappy fights to protect him.

[uppercut510]

honestly anytime so called blacks start being happy about each other succeeding and supporting each other and being proud of their race... for some odd reason a lot of other people go crazy and do everything in their power to discredit it and or label it racist; even though they arent hurting anyone or using their racial pride to go around the earth bombing others, stealing lands, and hanging people from trees. they just seem to be happy about their race doing big things like every other race does... they create youtube platforms talking sht and boxing while supporting each other as well, its really not a threat but for some reason its all others think and talk about... (but in the same breath they say its insignificant) thats what the majority of the hate is... but none of them will be honest so ill put my neck out there... the rest are just people who put too much thought and energy into men they will never meet and have low self esteem so they come around here acting like monsters.

[rickJen]

As for spence vs mikey garcia purse. That came when Eddie hearn was making offers to all these guys. pbc overpaid both these guys and they lost money.
what did the garcia vs keith thurman, or porter vs thurman, or garcia vs porter fights generate? what did the purses look like?
Thurman got $1.5m, porter got $1m as an example.

It's called keeping up with the Joneses doe.
Living beyond one's means.
You can also blame PBC fanboys with their constant cries of
lowball when Hearn is the one making offers.
Chickens are coming home to roost.