Why do certain posters only focus on Haymon and PBC and want it to fail?

[Curt Henning]

im talking about right now, under matchroom...eg matchroom fighters will fight pbc fighters..but pbc fighters won't fight matchroom fighters. Why? because eddie doesnt stand in their way whereas al haymon does.
of course, im not talking about the lesser names like ruiz who's life changed fighting aj. I'm talking about established names or the ones on the same type of level eg andrade vs charlo or bjs vs eubank jr.
Right now, jermall won't fight Andrade and jr wont fight bjs. Even though bjs and andrade have gone on record to say they want those fights.
eubank jr and bjs hold belts at smw. both are brits and eubank is supposed to want to avenge his loss to bjs right? yet in recent interviews, jr is like 'bjs needs more, he wants a payday' and doesnt indicate he wants to fight him...inc dissing eddie hearn for aj losing.
clear cut the same pattern of pbc in general. remember ellerbe. ellerby was kissing eddie's ass before when he was just a british promoter. later he was dissing dazn and eddie.
eddie hearn: ellerbe is a hater
ellerbe: what's there to hate? he made aj lose to ruiz.
that's some venom right there.

As for how Andrade's career has gone, you have to be realistic. BJS has been signed up, but he's still at SMW. The only MW left is GGG for Andrade, or Jermall. Deryvanchenko is something al haymon would offer all day every day because it's no threat to him if Derv loses. can he risk jermall losing to andrade? yet eddie has no issue with making that fight like ive said.

the other type of argument the pbc guys use is 'why do they need US? cant they make good fights on their own?'
which shows the insular mentality.

If Canelo doesn't fight GGG (which is likely), we could see Canelo vs BJS and GGG vs Andrade though, so that would be ideal in terms of getting bjs and andrade paydays.

Also, it's only been a little over a year since Andrade's been active with matchroom. From October to July, he'd had 3 fights.
that's the point, he's been active.

Don't get me wrong, when i say a matchroom fighter will fight a pbc fighter, it does depend on the money, but it's doable, whereas pbc won't tolerate it at all. pbc want those fights on their turf/network and wont put up the money the matchroom guys want.

You've pointed out the low number of viewers on dazn. That's in it's earlier months. Right now dazn will have anywhere from 300k-500k subs. in fact you dont even know the true viewing figures since dazn is a private company and doesnt need to reveal numbers, nor does it. the numbers other networks release are because they're public companies eg cbs corp.

thats great that DAZN has 300-500k subs...but when andrade is fighting another nobody id bet half of that is tuning in.......they have some subs but i doubt all of them are tuning in to watch him fight the guys hes been fighting since he got to DAZN

hes still sitting there without canelo and golovkin whom are right there in his wheelhouse......if andrade thought he could get them he wouldnt be talking charlo

charlo is the one guy ill say over on the other side that is getting fights as awful as andrade....

but look at tevin farmer...look who hes been fighting...its no secret why hes calling tanks name...because he needs to say tanks name.....tank just turned 25 and has been on 7 straight showtime/ppv cards and already earns, per fight, around what loma does....nobody is watching tevin farmer fight if they even know who he is.....sam

at the end of the day andrade needs to be chirping about big fights because he cant even land one with two of the biggest MW stars in the sport right on his network

you guys always chirp about how certain pbc fighters say the names of others guys for "publicity" and use their name....yet DAZN guys do much the same

i am realistic about andrade careers...were from the same state....its been a flop and a waste...and his own people are much to blame....and to be honest I was told by many it was going to get better once he signed with DAZN....and it hasnt...its much the same

[Thuglife Nelo]

Like me you lying pos! I love how u didnt respond when i called u out on lying about me defending them when i said i hate them a million times. I told u i just get annoyed how u constantly spam this website with a group of people who don't control anything in boxing!

You POS

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[True-Boxing-Fan]

Arum
Oscar
Hearn
all have stables and all usually have them fight each other

all have certain networks they work with

all pay their fighters what they want to pay them

So why the direct hate for Haymon??? Why???

Isnt Ruiz fighting Joshua?? so how can you say he inst letting his fighters cross over??

He damn near has all the ww's so if anyone needs to cross over isnt it Arum and Crawford?

Please tell me what all the hate is about and be honest for once...

Stfu Larry, you a good dude. But you can be annoying with your one sided threads.

If you are so concerned with people worry and hating on Haymon and the pbc then go all the way and call out mfers who complains about the other side also.

One sided mfer.

[Larry the boss]

Anytime a PBC fighter gets criticized they immediately play the race card. They always make delusional claims like the Wilderettes who were saying a few weeks ago that the fight with Ortiz was almost sold out.

It is the exact same from the other side, you slam GGG or Loma then you are called racist

[Curt Henning]

its actually comical to see...haymon will still be here in 10 years.....they can keep wishing it and even writing that its happening....haymon is as strong as anyone in the fight game right now....probably stronger than anyone really

[Inspired]

thats great that DAZN has 300-500k subs...but when andrade is fighting another nobody id bet half of that is tuning in.......they have some subs but i doubt all of them are tuning in to watch him fight the guys hes been fighting since he got to DAZN

hes still sitting there without canelo and golovkin whom are right there in his wheelhouse......if andrade thought he could get them he wouldnt be talking charlo

charlo is the one guy ill say over on the other side that is getting fights as awful as andrade....

but look at tevin farmer...look who hes been fighting...its no secret why hes calling tanks name...because he needs to say tanks name.....tank just turned 25 and has been on 7 straight showtime/ppv cards and already earns, per fight, around what loma does....nobody is watching tevin farmer fight if they even know who he is.....sam

at the end of the day andrade needs to be chirping about big fights because he cant even land one with two of the biggest MW stars in the sport right on his network

you guys always chirp about how certain pbc fighters say the names of others guys for "publicity" and use their name....yet DAZN guys do much the same

i am realistic about andrade careers...were from the same state....its been a flop and a waste...and his own people are much to blame....and to be honest I was told by many it was going to get better once he signed with DAZN....and it hasnt...its much the same

How exactly do you know what Eddie promised Andrade and the contexts?
Andrade and Tevin Farmer are happy, why is that? they've been more active, getting paid and most def are bigger names now.
Both are world champions right now.
look at Gary Russel jr, he's been miserable as a pbc fighter.

you have to be realistic too, in 1 year, bjs failed a drug test so that fight didnt happen. He boxed the number 2 mandatory guy.
He bet akavov who went the distance with BJS. sulecki had only lost to Daniel Jacobs before.
So he's been boxing at a good level.

However no doubt, andrade wants/needs a big fight....why should that not include Jermall Charlo? why are you clinging on to this dumb argument that

'he needs to box the big names on matchroom/dazn and not dare to call out a pbc fighter (another champion) and if he does, it's because eddie hearn has failed.'?

or 'it could have happened before'
im talking about right now, if al haymon was willing, jermall charlo and andrade could fight.
Even jermall has said 'eddie call me up' but we know al haymon will block it.

You seem to have overlooked a couple of things
-GGG boxed steve rolls coming back from injury.
-He boxed Deryvanchenko who was his mandatory..he had to take that fight.

So naturally there's no way andrade was going to get ggg before. Canelo boxed a mandatory, Daniel Jacobs already. He's now a franchise champion and really doesnt give a **** about becoming undisputed at MW. Canelo may be a dazn guy, but it's his choice who he fights. To me it's more likely Canelo boxes BJS whilst GGG boxes Andrade...it'll likely happen next year or at least one of those fights will get made. or maybe it'll be BJS vs callum smith, or canelo vs callum smith along with BJS vs Daniel jacobs.
any of those variations are quality.

just like the WW division at pbc, you cant expect everyone to fight everyone at once. it takes a few years to gradually work through the process.

Meanwhile, since we know both jermall and andrade have history, are champions in the same division and need stand out fights...it makes sense to let them fight.
you know Eddie wouldnt stand in the way, but al haymon would.

This is a tactic the pbc and you pbc fans use eg
'andrade cant get any big fights thats why he's calling out charlo'
dumb statement, charlo is a champion now, he wasnt before.
we're talking about a unification fight.


As for Tank Davis vs Tevin...i dont care who makes what, who is viewed by who and who is the bigger star. Eddie doesnt care if the fight is made on showtime, as long as Tevin gets paid what he's worth. The important point here is Tevin wants the fight, but pbc eg ellerbe are standing in the way, making it difficult.
tank is going up anyway, so it likely won't happen now (as in, this is what pbc were planning all along).

Tevin has been the most active champion in the last year. no one cares about your trashy disses against him. He's got the best from what he had to work with.
There arent many big fights for tevin, but he's earning isnt he?

fyi, porter vs spence..they got around $2-2.5m each.
what a joke.
Crawford vs amir khan got more.

[QueensburyRules]

Arum
Oscar
Hearn
all have stables and all usually have them fight each other

all have certain networks they work with

all pay their fighters what they want to pay them

So why the direct hate for Haymon??? Why???

Isnt Ruiz fighting Joshua?? so how can you say he inst letting his fighters cross over??

He damn near has all the ww's so if anyone needs to cross over isnt it Arum and Crawford?

Please tell me what all the hate is about and be honest for once...

- -Hysteric Larry is it?

[Curt Henning]

How exactly do you know what Eddie promised Andrade and the contexts?
Andrade and Tevin Farmer are happy, why is that? they've been more active, getting paid and most def are bigger names now.
Both are world champions right now.
look at Gary Russel jr, he's been miserable as a pbc fighter.

you have to be realistic too, in 1 year, bjs failed a drug test so that fight didnt happen. He boxed the number 2 mandatory guy.
He bet akavov who went the distance with BJS. sulecki had only lost to Daniel Jacobs before.
So he's been boxing at a good level.

However no doubt, andrade wants/needs a big fight....why should that not include Jermall Charlo? why are you clinging on to this dumb argument that

'he needs to box the big names on matchroom/dazn and not dare to call out a pbc fighter (another champion) and if he does, it's because eddie hearn has failed.'?

or 'it could have happened before'
im talking about right now, if al haymon was willing, jermall charlo and andrade could fight.
Even jermall has said 'eddie call me up' but we know al haymon will block it.

You seem to have overlooked a couple of things
-GGG boxed steve rolls coming back from injury.
-He boxed Deryvanchenko who was his mandatory..he had to take that fight.

So naturally there's no way andrade was going to get ggg before. Canelo boxed a mandatory, Daniel Jacobs already. He's now a franchise champion and really doesnt give a **** about becoming undisputed at MW. Canelo may be a dazn guy, but it's his choice who he fights. To me it's more likely Canelo boxes BJS whilst GGG boxes Andrade...it'll likely happen next year or at least one of those fights will get made. or maybe it'll be BJS vs callum smith, or canelo vs callum smith along with BJS vs Daniel jacobs.
any of those variations are quality.

just like the WW division at pbc, you cant expect everyone to fight everyone at once. it takes a few years to gradually work through the process.

Meanwhile, since we know both jermall and andrade have history, are champions in the same division and need stand out fights...it makes sense to let them fight.
you know Eddie wouldnt stand in the way, but al haymon would.

This is a tactic the pbc and you pbc fans use eg
'andrade cant get any big fights thats why he's calling out charlo'
dumb statement, charlo is a champion now, he wasnt before.
we're talking about a unification fight.


As for Tank Davis vs Tevin...i dont care who makes what, who is viewed by who and who is the bigger star. Eddie doesnt care if the fight is made on showtime, as long as Tevin gets paid what he's worth. The important point here is Tevin wants the fight, but pbc eg ellerbe are standing in the way, making it difficult.
tank is going up anyway, so it likely won't happen now (as in, this is what pbc were planning all along).

Tevin has been the most active champion in the last year. no one cares about your trashy disses against him. He's got the best from what he had to work with.
There arent many big fights for tevin, but he's earning isnt he?

fyi, porter vs spence..they got around $2-2.5m each.
what a joke.
Crawford vs amir khan got more.

lol...i cant entertain a convo with you if you think spence made 2.5 for the porter fight...because you are a pbc hater and in complete denial...which i could already tell...but that was the dead giveaway....you think spence is actually making less than crawford lol

[KillaMane26]

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U know what im talking about. U full of shyt. Im not gonna dig thru your 100 LDBC threads to find you quotes.

[Inspired]

lol...i cant entertain a convo with you if you think spence made 2.5 for the porter fight...because you are a pbc hater and in complete denial...which i could already tell...but that was the dead giveaway....you think spence is actually making less than crawford lol

i'm a hater of the way they operate like a cult, with a load of idiotic black israelite types and kemetic types supporting them and hating the competition in the corniest ways.

i'm a hater becaue al haymon defrauded $600m+ from investers via some shady moves via that investment fund.


with justified arguments...
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2019/9/2...on-boxing-news

wilder was earning $2m vs ortiz only 1.5 yrs ago. hisd earnings only increased due to AJ's presence. Wilder doesnt have that.
crawford only did 150k ppv buys vs khan. the ww's dont do massive numbers compared to what floyd did. that's because they have a ****/dodgy advisor.