Why do certain posters only focus on Haymon and PBC and want it to fail?

[Curt Henning]

you're missing the point. The matchroom guys are all willing to fight anyone. Andrade has said he wants to fight Jermall Charlo.

Andrade will get a canelo/ggg eventually, they're in demand and there are plenty of fights for them. Eg canelo vs BJS or Callum smith or even bivol...but meanwhile why can't we see Andrade vs Jermall Charlo next year? if it doesnt happen it's because of al haymon. Eddie hearn has stated he wants to make Chris Eubank jr vs BJS for example. Eubank jr however doesn't want it. So yet again we see an al haymon fighter do his best to avoid someone on the 'otherside of the street'. I don't think it's the boxers, it's al haymon.

if it doesnt happen its because of al haymon? lol

i guess you forgot about andrade pulling out of a fight with jermell years ago a couple of weeks before the fight....and andrades father got caught lying about the money he was gonna get...in fact andrade promoter said the figure his father quoted was not correct

andrade pulled out and ended up suing roc nation...he claimed roc nation told him to pull out and theyd get a fight for more money

he ended up suing roc nation for 10 mil saying that they helped him torch his relationship with showtime...he left them in a bind....and it basically stalled charlos career for years....

[Bob Haymon]

what are we basing this on?

Anytime a PBC fighter gets criticized they immediately play the race card. They always make delusional claims like the Wilderettes who were saying a few weeks ago that the fight with Ortiz was almost sold out.

[Inspired]

if it doesnt happen its because of al haymon? lol

i guess you forgot about andrade pulling out of a fight with jermell years ago a couple of weeks before the fight....and andrades father got caught lying about the money he was gonna get...in fact andrade promoter said the figure his father quoted was not correct

andrade pulled out and ended up suing roc nation...he claimed roc nation told him to pull out and theyd get a fight for more money

he ended up suing roc nation for 10 mil saying that they helped him torch his relationship with showtime...he left them in a bind....and it basically stalled charlos career for years....

im talking about right now, under matchroom...eg matchroom fighters will fight pbc fighters..but pbc fighters won't fight matchroom fighters. Why? because eddie doesnt stand in their way whereas al haymon does.
of course, im not talking about the lesser names like ruiz who's life changed fighting aj. I'm talking about established names or the ones on the same type of level eg andrade vs charlo or bjs vs eubank jr.
Right now, jermall won't fight Andrade and jr wont fight bjs. Even though bjs and andrade have gone on record to say they want those fights.
eubank jr and bjs hold belts at smw. both are brits and eubank is supposed to want to avenge his loss to bjs right? yet in recent interviews, jr is like 'bjs needs more, he wants a payday' and doesnt indicate he wants to fight him...inc dissing eddie hearn for aj losing.
clear cut the same pattern of pbc in general. remember ellerbe. ellerby was kissing eddie's ass before when he was just a british promoter. later he was dissing dazn and eddie.
eddie hearn: ellerbe is a hater
ellerbe: what's there to hate? he made aj lose to ruiz.
that's some venom right there.

As for how Andrade's career has gone, you have to be realistic. BJS has been signed up, but he's still at SMW. The only MW left is GGG for Andrade, or Jermall. Deryvanchenko is something al haymon would offer all day every day because it's no threat to him if Derv loses. can he risk jermall losing to andrade? yet eddie has no issue with making that fight like ive said.

the other type of argument the pbc guys use is 'why do they need US? cant they make good fights on their own?'
which shows the insular mentality.

If Canelo doesn't fight GGG (which is likely), we could see Canelo vs BJS and GGG vs Andrade though, so that would be ideal in terms of getting bjs and andrade paydays.

Also, it's only been a little over a year since Andrade's been active with matchroom. From October to July, he'd had 3 fights.
that's the point, he's been active.

Don't get me wrong, when i say a matchroom fighter will fight a pbc fighter, it does depend on the money, but it's doable, whereas pbc won't tolerate it at all. pbc want those fights on their turf/network and wont put up the money the matchroom guys want.

You've pointed out the low number of viewers on dazn. That's in it's earlier months. Right now dazn will have anywhere from 300k-500k subs. in fact you dont even know the true viewing figures since dazn is a private company and doesnt need to reveal numbers, nor does it. the numbers other networks release are because they're public companies eg cbs corp.

[sicko]

I always post how Boxing Fans are Miserable F#CKING PEOPLE!

Failures want everybody else to FAIL just like they have FAILED in LIFE! Not just talking about those who hate all things PBC but also the people who hate all things DAZN and Top Rank!

You're not a Boxing Fan, you're some bitter lonely mentally challenged weirdo on a forum thinking that by you posting negative stuff about them on this forum Daily is making some sort of impact. Thinking that your Opinion is the end all be all in the sport of boxing and that what you post on this forum will somehow be seen by Promoters and Fighters and that they will listen to you

My stance always been...as a boxing fan and most importantly for the sake of the men who get in that ring and put their life on the line literally WE NEED THEM ALL to succeed. I live in America so I don't care WTF is going on in other countries but I know in America, boxing is not in the best space right now, in fact the popularity seems to be rapidly declining...well unless 2 Youtubers are doing it. So the more we have Networks and Apps investing into the sport, you would think the better but not on this forum full of obviously FAKE Boxing Fans

It is a difference between being a "Fan Of Boxing" compared to being just a "Fan Of A Boxer" it is a lot of people who are just "Fans Of Boxers" and/or just Fans Of Boxers who are of the same Race, Ethnicity, Nationality, Religion and a bunch of other BS that has ZERO to do with fighters actual skills in that ring

[Motorcity Cobra]

1. He's black and most of the fighters are black. They only like black fighters controlled by whites. Hell, they don't even like white fighters under Haymon. Where are the Caleb Plant fans?

2. Because they hate admitting they were wrong. They believed the Steve Kim's, Dan Rafael's, Chris Mannix when they were told PBC would fail. They're still holding out hope the same way they're still holding out hope GGG will land that one punch against Canelo

[Thuglife Nelo]

1. He's black and most of the fighters are black. They only like black fighters controlled by whites. Hell, they don't even like white fighters under Haymon. Where are the Caleb Plant fans?

2. Because they hate admitting they were wrong. They believed the Steve Kim's, Dan Rafael's, Chris Mannix when they were told PBC would fail. They're still holding out hope the same way they're still holding out hope GGG will land that one punch against Canelo

But to answer your question regarding Whyte vs PBC:

Lamont Peterson
Luis Ortiz
Monroe Jr.
John Molina Jr.
J'Leon Love
Andrzej Fonfara
Chad Dawson
Lucian Bute
Andre Berto
David Benavidez
Chris Arreola
Devon Alexander

PEDS doe

[KillaMane26]

My problem is these guys who defend other networks but only point out certain ones bs.

When they all have their own issues, they all do shady shyt from time to time, they all make in house fights.

Not just PBC. Not just DAZN, not just Arum.

They all full of shyt. And if you cant agree with that i feel like u have an obvious agenda like half the posters on here

[KillaMane26]

MCC finally put me on ignore. He don't want that work!

Larry acts ******, but its probably because he knows some people on the LDBC like many posters on this site, so he doesn't want to say the wrong thing. THat's why those whom defended the LDBC months ago on this site rarely post anymore to not reveal themselves consistently...

Like me you lying pos! I love how u didnt respond when i called u out on lying about me defending them when i said i hate them a million times. I told u i just get annoyed how u constantly spam this website with a group of people who don't control anything in boxing!

You POS

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Please tell me what all the hate is about and be honest for once...

Their are 2 types of people who dont like PBC, those who blindly hate them and those who hate for their legit reasons.

Those who blindly hate them are A) usually racism involved because PBC is seen as a pro black outlet, B) Nationalism as PBC is a USA OUTLET, C) RETALITION FOR PBC FANBOYS ATTACKING DAZN ETC.

or

Those with legit reasons, A) legit reasons is their own and only they can explain but this group isnt motivated by the above explantions its mere from a boxing stanppoint.


what I really think it is, is a few nerds who get lost in their feelings cause xyz member said this about this fighter or this network so they attack back and those nerds with no life who got attacked end up attacking back and this is how you get a bunch of weirdo members making post about dazn, pbc, etc etc etc.

I mean you tell us how you can get so lost in the boxing BS that you make death threats online twoard other people like you have done larry. You are more capble to explain their weirdo behavior better than anyone on here I believe cause you done it, tell us why you did it? were you lonely, bored, drunk, high, no life, getting no *****? what drove you to make death threats to 50 cents? and troll here for so many years?

[Wolfie*]

You're dumb as fuukk is you don't see how making their own belts and monopolizing their stable is not good for boxing.