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  • Larry the boss
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    #21
    Originally posted by Monzon99
    Fraud Duckweather used the drug testing as a fight blocker. When Pac finally agreed to Floyd's crazy blood tests up to the day of fight, Floyd found a new excuse: I won't do business with Arum.

    Cotto and Floyd was prime for 2008, both undefeated at 147, both champions, both with HBO but Floyd and Haymon didn't want it. Cotto wanted it. Floyd said it won't happen because of Arum and because Cotto had low PPV numbers.

    Arum wanted the Oscar fight because it was big $. Floyd was lying again to save his sorry a55. Arum wanted Floyd vs Margarito first the same Margarito Floyd said was slow basic and one dimensional. You're a dummy who believes every lie Fraudweather says.
    NOW POST FACTS TO BACK ALL OF THAT UP....ILL DO MY PART NOW


    Floyd said 50/50 was OFF OF THE TABLE(PLUS ON A MANNY 24/7 THEY WERE STILL ASKING FOR A CUTTOFF)-you lied

    Cotto on his lead up to the floyd fight said THE FIGHT WAS NEVER OFFERED FROM EITHER SIDE

    ANd as far as arum on the oscar fight

    After Mayweather defeated Zab Judah, he was offered 8 million to fight Antonio Margarito on August 12th 2006. Leonard Ellerbe had this to say after the Judah fight.
    Floyd is not 100 percent healthy,” Ellerbe said. “He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It’s bruised, but it’s a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it”.

    “We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd’s next fight, that’s the direction he will move in.” If you noticed, that was Ellerbe speaking. Not Floyd. Let’s move on.

    Bob Arum, Mayweather’s promoter at the time said that Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

    Arum stated that Mayweather would have fought Margarito for the 8 million, but he wanted a guaranteed 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Arum only guaranteed him 7 million. And for those who don’t know Cotto and Hatton were at the Mayweather-Gatti fight and Cotto was ranked number 5 by the ring at the time (Proof: Listen to the commentary Jim Lampley at the end of round 5) . Cotto had just moved up to the 140 pound weight class and he didn’t make an offer to fight Mayweather after the Gatti fight.

    Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn’t interested in participating in. “That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ’em and when to fold ’em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Notice this part Arum was talking.


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      #22
      Originally posted by Monzon99
      The only reason Haymon still has any empire is because he's protected Spence from losing to Crawford, Wilder from losing to Povetkin, Whyte and Joshua and Davis from losing to Lomachenko and Farmer.

      The Charlos and Garcias and Thurman don't draw anything.

      So because Haymon has protected Spence, Davis and Wilder, he is still alive and has some leverage and hope that one or all of these three protected pretenders can become a major cash generator.

      But it's very unlikely. Spence is probably finished by that car crash unfortunately. Wilder does not draw anything and will eventually have to be sacrificed in the big money fight to AJ who will KO Ruiz in rematch.

      Davis is a nothing pretender with a lousy personality. His villain act is destined to the gutter like Broner regardless of how many inside rig jobs Floyd and Haymon give him.

      So the future is not looking bright for Haymon to hit the big time huge money fights. Sacrificing Wilder to Joshua will be the make or break moment for Haymon. But Haymon is a coward at heart and will try to avoid that as he has done already for over a year. Haymon will desperately continue to try to fabricate Wilder into a moneymaker without having to face Joshua. With a series of more fake KOs and dives to get Wilder to 50-0.
      This thread is ASS BACKWARDS
      Last edited by j.razor; 11-20-2019, 08:31 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Oct 2019 join date. Which banned crazy pac slurping idiot is this?
        chrisjs

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        • just the facts
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          #24
          Originally posted by REDEEMER
          If Wilder gets by Ortiz then Fury is the end of his road. I already said this awhile back and now that Spence is out its a bleak future . Once wilder loses its game over and we'll get some fights that are or would be blocked by this group . Its highly unlikely the AJ fight comes off unfortunately .
          I'll ask again, what's up with your negative obsession with Wilder?Racism? Anti American agenda?What?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Monzon99
            Tell me why Haymon has refused to make Stevenson vs Kovalev, Davis vs Loma or Farmer, Spence vs Crawford and Wilder vs Joshua for $120m????
            Tell me why team Kovalev refused to take part in the WBC purse bid after petitioning them to make them a mandatory? Davis vs Loma? No one would risk a rising star vs an ATG for the small purse that fight brings in. Davis vs Farmer? Who's Farmer? Tell me why Crawford resigned with Arum knowing EVERY other relevant welter was with PBC? When Joshua named his price for a Wilder fight (50 million) and Haymon came up with the money, why did team Joshua start back peddling?

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              #26
              Originally posted by just the facts
              Tell me why team Kovalev refused to take part in the WBC purse bid after petitioning them to make them a mandatory? Davis vs Loma? No one would risk a rising star vs an ATG for the small purse that fight brings in. Davis vs Farmer? Who's Farmer? Tell me why Crawford resigned with Arum knowing EVERY other relevant welter was with PBC? When Joshua named his price for a Wilder fight (50 million) and Haymon came up with the money, why did team Joshua start back peddling?
              Don't waste your time with this guy. Not only does he know nothing about boxing, he's also an outright racist. Save your keyboard strokes, bro. This might be Freedom's alt.
              Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 11-20-2019, 12:37 AM.

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              • Fanofreason
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                #27
                Haymon is really hurting by being signed to Fox.

                Only dude on his way out of US boxing is Edward Hearn.

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                • KillaMane26
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                  #28
                  This guy........ This the same guy who says all if Wilder fights are fixed lol.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by just the facts
                    At no point in this post did you present anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone who reads this post is now dumber for having done so.
                    😂😂 My favorite part is Billy Madison. Well done!

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by historian larry
                      NOW POST FACTS TO BACK ALL OF THAT UP....ILL DO MY PART NOW


                      Floyd said 50/50 was OFF OF THE TABLE(PLUS ON A MANNY 24/7 THEY WERE STILL ASKING FOR A CUTTOFF)-you lied

                      Cotto on his lead up to the floyd fight said THE FIGHT WAS NEVER OFFERED FROM EITHER SIDE

                      ANd as far as arum on the oscar fight

                      After Mayweather defeated Zab Judah, he was offered 8 million to fight Antonio Margarito on August 12th 2006. Leonard Ellerbe had this to say after the Judah fight.
                      Floyd is not 100 percent healthy,” Ellerbe said. “He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It’s bruised, but it’s a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it”.

                      “We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd’s next fight, that’s the direction he will move in.” If you noticed, that was Ellerbe speaking. Not Floyd. Let’s move on.

                      Bob Arum, Mayweather’s promoter at the time said that Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

                      Arum stated that Mayweather would have fought Margarito for the 8 million, but he wanted a guaranteed 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Arum only guaranteed him 7 million. And for those who don’t know Cotto and Hatton were at the Mayweather-Gatti fight and Cotto was ranked number 5 by the ring at the time (Proof: Listen to the commentary Jim Lampley at the end of round 5) . Cotto had just moved up to the 140 pound weight class and he didn’t make an offer to fight Mayweather after the Gatti fight.

                      Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn’t interested in participating in. “That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ’em and when to fold ’em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Notice this part Arum was talking.


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                      larry still posting the same thing that proves floyd priced himself out and ducked and still thinking it proves floyd wanted the fights. its priceless every time

                      just a little bit of research would help but i guess it just sounds reasonable. floyd wanted a 20 million guarantee otherwise he would have fought marg. whats wrong with that? oh wait he took a 10 million guarantee after he left top rank. oops! priced himself out on purpose so he didnt have to take the fights. why didnt floyd fight cotto at 147? oh cotto lives too far but a green cotto didn't live too far?

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