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  • #41
    Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
    That's a lie. Wilder was given the choice to skip Breazeale or fight him on Dazn . Unification would trump mandos . AJ was only trying to save a MSG date for the fans when 4 fighters declined his offers he would have never went seeking other fights on 3 weeks preparation if Wilder agreed to the fight. Ha
    He was given no option you dunce once his mando was called after fury backed out of rematch the offers dazn offer for 3 fight and 4 fight deals both had him taking on breazeale first and aj making his us debut... and you goes and lie again about how much time he had to prepare for Ruiz it was 5 weeks with him already having the list of his potential opponents to replace ped miller weeks before

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    • #42
      Some people on here have no sense of reasoning whatsoever, people don't always have to accept the money thrown at them.
      Joshua was offered a straight $50m to fight wilder in the US and he refused and he even admitted to it but I guess that doesn't count

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Angeljuice View Post
        Wilder has avoided AJ, only an idiot would ignore the facts and believe the untested fraud who has sat on his single belt for years.
        You’re another Eddie Hearn robot.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by O.G View Post
          Some people on here have no sense of reasoning whatsoever, people don't always have to accept the money thrown at them.
          Joshua was offered a straight $50m to fight wilder in the US and he refused and he even admitted to it but I guess that doesn't count
          They sat and waited for a contract that never arrived. You can offer a billion, if you refuse to send a contract how are they going to take you up on it?

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          • #45
            Originally posted by lion33lit View Post
            You’re another Eddie Hearn robot.
            So why does Wilder still only have a single belt after all these years?

            Tell me how a man who will fight anybody genuinely manages not to fight any other champion in his record long reign?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Angeljuice View Post
              So why does Wilder still only have a single belt after all these years?

              Tell me how a man who will fight anybody genuinely manages not to fight any other champion in his record long reign?
              He wants all the belts, and I'd like him to get em' all before he possibly loses. But if you cant see behind all the Eddie & Barry shenanigans, I certainly wont be able to convince you. Barry wanted Joshua to wait two years as recently as 2018 as seen on Boxingscene before facing Wilder.

              Even after Joshuas 8th fight he was advised by Barry to "duck" Wilder because "he's strong" (Youtube). Which at that time is understandable because Joshua was green.

              And I won't go into the 50mil that Eddie acknowledges was on the table and his admission of wanting Joshua to fight "risk free" fights if Wilder didn't accept their measly offers and vague "desire" to fight. Eddie turned this issue into trying to push Wilder into accepting lopsided money with no clear contracts or "talks" to exacerbate an already complicated "negotiations" process.

              On the advice of his pops, Eddie wanted Wilder frustrated and in limbo so that his robot would have free reign against sub par opponents at HOME with the luxury of photo shoots, endorsements & drunk UK fan worship....the pressure from SRLeonard, Lennox and other outspoken critics knew Joshuas pu ss moves to stay @ home was wack & cowardly....plus the fact he (Joshua) didnt want Wilder entering the ring to confront him to hype a potential fight.....I've only scratched the surface dude.....It was good to see Joshua LOSE "because he played it safe for far too long as a protected so called "champ".....

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              • #47
                Originally posted by lion33lit View Post
                He wants all the belts, and I'd like him to get em' all before he possibly loses. But if you cant see behind all the Eddie & Barry shenanigans, I certainly wont be able to convince you. Barry wanted Joshua to wait two years as recently as 2018 as seen on Boxingscene before facing Wilder.

                Even after Joshuas 8th fight he was advised by Barry to "duck" Wilder because "he's strong" (Youtube). Which at that time is understandable because Joshua was green.

                And I won't go into the 50mil that Eddie acknowledges was on the table and his admission of wanting Joshua to fight "risk free" fights if Wilder didn't accept their measly offers and vague "desire" to fight. Eddie turned this issue into trying to push Wilder into accepting lopsided money with no clear contracts or "talks" to exacerbate an already complicated "negotiations" process.

                On the advice of his pops, Eddie wanted Wilder frustrated and in limbo so that his robot would have free reign against sub par opponents at HOME with the luxury of photo shoots, endorsements & drunk UK fan worship....the pressure from SRLeonard, Lennox and other outspoken critics knew Joshuas pu ss moves to stay @ home was wack & cowardly....plus the fact he (Joshua) didnt want Wilder entering the ring to confront him to hype a potential fight.....I've only scratched the surface dude.....It was good to see Joshua LOSE "because he played it safe for far too long as a protected so called "champ".....
                He's a better champ than Deontay Hider. He's fought far better opponents and held 4 belts.

                I've also seen footage of Wilder in 2017 saying "AJ is too inexperienced to fight now, I want him to gain experience for a couple more years before I fight him."
                8 months later he was saying that Joshua had been ducking him all this time.

                Ortiz, Fury, Ortiz, Fury, yes he's really trying to unify the belts by fighting the same non-title holders over and over again.
                Mind you, they are the only two half-decent heavyweights he has ever faced in his entire career.

                Unbelievable that you twist the truth to defend a cowardly paper champ.
                When has Wilder boxed outside of America? The money was far better in the UK as boxing is dead in the US.
                When one fighter holds 4 belts and one fighter holds just one, the multiple belt holder always gets the lions share of the purse. It has always been the way. He should be taking 4/5 of the purse.
                The 50mil was real, the contract was vapour ware.
                Last edited by Angeljuice; 12-03-2019, 11:14 AM.

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                • #48
                  I hope Joshua retires if he loses and starts to act in action movies.

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