Now you see why Ortiz turned down AJ on short notice

[DaNeutral.]

Per Mike Coppinger, Ortiz is making more money to fight Wilder in a rematch than he was offered for the Joshua fight.

LOL you will believe anything.

[Cutthroat]

That's not what they said when they turned down the offer. I get what ppl are saying but let's be real about what they said at the time.

Had they said thanks but no thanks we'd le a full camp to face wilder then fine but they said Joshua ducked and sent lowball offers and ortiz was on holiday, when he wasn't.

Ortiz was relaxing spending time with his family, he'd gone on record saying he would be after having 5 fights in a little over 1 year. This is how Hearn operates, he knew Ortiz was at his weakest, this was a cherry pick just like Ruiz was except it went wrong.


Ortiz wasn't about to sell out, now he's getting paid after a full camp and in great shape.

[Cutthroat]

In hindsight, he would've beatean AJ, become HW champion of the world, and made an even bigger bag in the rematch.

But sure. He's in great shape now lmao.

Ortiz wasn't anywhere near 100%, he had gone on record saying he wanted to spend time with his family after 5 straight fights in a little over a year. Hearn knew this, they tried getting Ortiz at his weakest and AJ with a full camp that's the only way they wanted the fight.

[Cutthroat]

he's not in amazing shape.
he was also in "dont test me" mode at that time
wilder was not considered a tougher challenge at the time
he's making a lot less money, isnt the point of boxing to make money?
he didn't say shape was the reason, he wanted more money remember?

besides that you nailed it!

How could he make more money if he sells out? The man fought 5 fights in a little over a year, he was bot active at the time he was relaxing with his family. You fell hook line and sinker for Hearns tricks, trying to get Ortiz at his absolute weakest. AJ? Had a full camp. All this time & now they wanted to finally fight Ortiz lol

[The Big Dunn]

Ortiz is with haymon and pbc so there are posters who will find a way to criticize whatever move he makes.

The only way pbc fighters don’t get criticized is if they take fights for low pay or give away any competitive advantage they may have so a loss is more likely.

[ShaneMosleySr]

LOL you will believe anything.

LOL you will make anything into a conspiracy theory.

[garfios]

he's not in amazing shape.
he was also in "dont test me" mode at that time
wilder was not considered a tougher challenge at the time
he's making a lot less money, isnt the point of boxing to make money?
he didn't say shape was the reason, he wanted more money remember?

besides that you nailed it!

actually he is making a lot more, right around 3M more and with a full camp.

[johnbook]

LOL you will make anything into a conspiracy theory.

It's not "theory."
The only conspiracy theory is that conspiracies are a "theory."
Term was created by CIA in the 60s.
And how do you have nearly 3000 posts in about 8 months?

[ShaneMosleySr]

It is a conspiracy theory.

When a trained journalist reports something and you say it’s made up based on absolutely no evidence, that’s a conspiracy theory.

If Coppinger is ignoring the idea of journalistic integrity to purposely report false information to the masses, that’s a conspiracy.

Not having proof that’s happening makes it a theory and not a fact.

It's not "theory."
The only conspiracy theory is that conspiracies are a "theory."
Term was created by CIA in the 60s.
And how do you have nearly 3000 posts in about 8 months?

[johnbook]

It is a conspiracy theory.

When a trained journalist reports something and you say it’s made up based on absolutely no evidence, that’s a conspiracy theory.

If Coppinger is ignoring the idea of journalistic integrity to purposely report false information to the masses, that’s a conspiracy.

Not having proof that’s happening makes it a theory and not a fact.

Everything you do is off, and so desperate to arouse. You're about the only one who puts his inflated replies above the quote he is replying to. Makes it more difficult for 3rd parties to read in your incorrect order of things.