Claressa Shields | Ivana Habazin Called Me A Thug Might As Well Call Me A N*gg*

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  • buddyr
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    #151
    Originally posted by Boxing_1013
    If a white person ever criticizes a black person = huge racist

    If a black person is ever legit racist to a white person = well they can't be racist, they don't have privilege...lol what a joke dude.
    I’m don’t care what white folks say about me cuz truthfully, I feel the same way about them as they do about me lol. I’m never around them unless I’m in B&N.

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #152
      Originally posted by megh50
      A couple of points -

      1. Don't stereotype her.
      I didnt.

      She doesn't have a criminal record (which is an achievement where she's from)
      No its not lol.

      2. Habazin isn't "ladylike," either. They are both fighters dude...not hostesses
      Habazin doesnt even matter. Shields is the one being sold to the public. And shes kinda a ass hole which can make her a harder sell. Shes good at it sometimes & can shine with some of the things shes said, but other times she says ignorant sh^t that doesnt do her any favors. Granted shes not Mike Tyson level with it, but for many cats shes given less leeway, fair or not, by being a female.

      Muhammad Ali was one of the most offensive and disrespectful blowhards around, but that was just a persona. His real character was shown by what he did in and out of the ring...not by how he talked and who he associated with (Nation of Islam).
      Thing is I dont think the ignorant sh^t Shields says is a persona thing so its a comparison that doesnt ring true.

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        #153
        Originally posted by Ray*
        Am not the one standing on a high moral ground here. That’s you who is trying to bring race into this subject, you are the one trying to use that to get your victim card out.

        Like I said I couldn’t care less about it here, racist would be racist, she isn’t going to be the first or last to be abused, others get abused for their race and I don’t see you spending any energy on it.

        The victim in this whole scenario is Ali and that’s all I care about.
        Race is in this subject already. I didn't bring it in.

        You can pretend not to see it and ignore it if you like. But it's a part of this situation along with what happened to Bashir.

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        • Boxing_1013
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          #154
          Originally posted by buddyr
          I’m don’t care what white folks say about me cuz truthfully, I feel the same way about them as they do about me lol. I’m never around them unless I’m in B&N.
          Lol...I mean besides me of course ...everyone is somewhat racist when it comes down to it...people usually see things through their own prism...I mean for 99% of human history people have lived with their own tribe of people who are more or less exactly like them.

          Putting all these different groups together...well yeah there are going to be issues sometimes and people will more or less always back their own...just the way we are wired basically.

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            #155
            Originally posted by buddyr
            I’m don’t care what white folks say about me cuz truthfully, I feel the same way about them as they do about me lol. I’m never around them unless I’m in B&N.
            Barnez N Noble?

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            • Ray*
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              #156
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              Race is in this subject already. I didn't bring it in.

              You can pretend not to see it and ignore it if you like. But it's a part of this situation along with what happened to Bashir.
              Yeah race is what punched Bashir in the head, thug = race... No there isn;t race in the subject, you decided to bring race into it. And accusing everyone who doesn't want to adhere to your mentality a racist or enabling racist.

              Fact is Miss shields is trying to play the race card here, to put herself forward as the victim and i refuse, along with many others to entertain her in that regards.

              Gullible people can be roped in by her comments here, because thats all they want, turn what happened into a race thing and paint her as one of the victim. But i know who the victim is here and it isn't her.

              The victim is the one his family didn't know if they would see the next day. Not the one with words filtering through to her.
              Last edited by Ray*; 11-18-2019, 03:19 AM.

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              • BoZz
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                #157
                Notice how Clarissa is the only one who connected the word thug to her skin color...she's the one stereotyping and fools still defend her lol

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                  #158
                  James Ali Bashir, Boxer Ivana Habazin's coach was sucker punched at the weigh in of their proposed fight.

                  Artis Mack, brother of Claressa Shields, is the person Flint Police say sucker punched Bashir. Mack has been charged with assault with intent to great bodily harm less than murder. A judge granted him bond in this case, but he remains in jail on a parole violation. Mack has previous convictions for arson and assault.

                  Shields called the altercation before Friday's weigh-in "inexcusable" after her opponent's trainer was hospitalized and her fight Saturday night was called off.

                  So you want to be the victim now!

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                  • alexguiness
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                    #159
                    Where Clarissa comes from, being called a thug is a compliment.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      She has a point. She wasn't the one who sucker punched Bashir. She actually tried to defuse the whole situation.

                      She has no criminal record.

                      What exactly makes her a thug? The fact that she is black and grew up in poverty?
                      ... I personally like Claressa Shields very much -- she's a very good fighter, she's intelligent, she's beautiful...

                      ... but she has to show more responsibility over that awful event...

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