Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: Wilder is Best of This Decade Until Someone Beats Him

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Of course he got KO victories. His adversity have been tomato cans and Jack Johnson's sparring partner.


Wilder ducked Klitschko and never fought Povetkin after his failed test, despite fighting Ortiz after his.

We debunked this idea that Wilder ducked Wladimir Klitschko years ago, keep up. I provided the reasons in this very same thread, pay attention.

Actual boxing fans knew Ruiz was legit, and Wilder's resume is the real laughingstock.

Nobody gave Ruiz a shot, dont try to rewrite history. I picked Ruiz because I knew A.J was overrated and chinny, liable to get clipped by Ruiz left hook.

That "gypsy bum" outboxed Wilder so hard, the judges couldn't even give Wilder the decision.

Couldn't give Wilder the decison? That also applies to Tyson Fury, maybe because the fight was close.

A prime Szpilka got stopped by Bryant Jennings, while Ruiz has one close decision loss to Joseph Parker.

How is this a rebuttal to the point I made? We all know that the casual would look at Szpilka and Andy and immediately pick Szpilka to beat the weight-lifter. The loss to little fat Ruiz is an ATG meme.

He tried to get Ortiz, but Ortiz's team priced him out. Tyson Fury priced himself out. Ortiz was there when Tutankhamut was entombed. He looked his age against Christian Hammer, and even if he manages to knock Wilder out, it's only a matter of time before Father Time gets him.

You guys that defend A.J always skip whats not in your best interest, Ortiz like Wilder had been chasing that chicken long before Matchroom and Hearn tried to save face with counter-offers. Ortiz was signed to Matchroom and never got his shot, the 'Bronze-Bomber' was the only one that stepped up.

A skilled fighter wouldn't throw and miss the same 2 punches against Tyson Fury for that many rounds. Unless he somehow learns how to box in one training camp, he'll be the same one-dimensional boxer he's always been. Unlike Wilder, Ruiz actually has fundamentals, fast hands and can fight on the inside.

For someone whos not accurate with his punches, he sure knows how to land those bombs tho. If you want to talk about numbers, Combubox recently had Wilder leading the HW division in Jabs among other categories.

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Why because he whooped your fat ass?

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The 'Bronze-Bomber' has faced adversity but, has come out those battles with KO victories.

Anthony Joshua has been battered by old Klitschko and barely survived, this was repeated with Alexander Povetkin. Finally, the beatings left Joshua so weak that he could not fend-off a massive underdog in Andy Ruiz, as a result A.J became the laughing stock of the world of sports.

Gypsy-Bum Tyson Fury lost to a local British level scrub in John McDermott early in his career and recently should of been stopped by another outclassed underdog in Otto Wallin.

If A.J would of lost to a prime slick south-paw Artur Szpilka, the upset would of not been as embarrassing. Nobody would of been surprised if Luis Ortiz KO either Anthony Joshua or Tyson Fury, even after the 'Bronze-Bomber' knocks Ortiz out, 'King-Kong' is still top ten ; there are few with his skill and power that can compete with Ortiz at HW.

The haters have said for years that Deontay is not skilled, 'Windmills', sloppy, no D, yet the so called skilled champions are getting beat by worse competition!

He's only fought two world class boxers in his entire career. He's avoided anybody he thought might beat him and lost to Fury.

Hype and nothing more, he is unproven.

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We debunked this idea that Wilder ducked Wladimir Klitschko years ago, keep up. I provided the reasons in this very same thread, pay attention.


Nobody gave Ruiz a shot, dont try to rewrite history. I picked Ruiz because I knew A.J was overrated and chinny, liable to get clipped by Ruiz left hook.



Couldn't give Wilder the decison? That also applies to Tyson Fury, maybe because the fight was close.


How is this a rebuttal to the point I made? We all know that the casual would look at Szpilka and Andy and immediately pick Szpilka to beat the weight-lifter. The loss to little fat Ruiz is an ATG meme.


You guys that defend A.J always skip whats not in your best interest, Ortiz like Wilder had been chasing that chicken long before Matchroom and Hearn tried to save face with counter-offers. Ortiz was signed to Matchroom and never got his shot, the 'Bronze-Bomber' was the only one that stepped up.


For someone whos not accurate with his punches, he sure knows how to land those bombs tho. If you want to talk about numbers, Combubox recently had Wilder leading the HW division in Jabs among other categories.

You sounded like you knew what you were talking about until you said Wilder vs Fury was close.

It wasn't close at all, Wilder was made to look a fool by missing with 9 out of 10 shots. Fury won that fight hands down and if you don't see that, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

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We debunked this idea that Wilder ducked Wladimir Klitschko years ago, keep up. I provided the reasons in this very same thread, pay attention.

His trainer said that he was still a baby. They didn't think he was ready, despite being a world champion.

Nobody gave Ruiz a shot, dont try to rewrite history. I picked Ruiz because I knew A.J was overrated and chinny, liable to get clipped by Ruiz left hook.

People who don't know shit about boxing didn't give Ruiz a shot. He was a threat.

Couldn't give Wilder the decison? That also applies to Tyson Fury, maybe because the fight was close.

Fury outboxed him at least 9/12 rounds. Stevie Wonder could see that a draw and a 115/111 card for Wilder were ridiculous.

How is this a rebuttal to the point I made? We all know that the casual would look at Szpilka and Andy and immediately pick Szpilka to beat the weight-lifter. The loss to little fat Ruiz is an ATG meme.

Who cares about what a casual would think about Szpilka or Ruiz? Ruiz is the better fighter.

You guys that defend A.J always skip whats not in your best interest, Ortiz like Wilder had been chasing that chicken long before Matchroom and Hearn tried to save face with counter-offers. Ortiz was signed to Matchroom and never got his shot, the 'Bronze-Bomber' was the only one that stepped up.

Wilder ducked $120m and Ortiz's team priced him out of the AJ bout.

For someone whos not accurate with his punches, he sure knows how to land those bombs tho. If you want to talk about numbers, Combubox recently had Wilder leading the HW division in Jabs among other categories.

Well yeah, you get 36 minutes to land the one punch you need for a KO. You don't have to be Muhammad Ali, to land 1 or 2 solid punches in a 12 round contest. As for the CompuBox numbers, well it can't be too difficult to land jabs, when most of the guys you fight are from homeless shelters.

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His trainer said that he was still a baby. They didn't think he was ready, despite being a world champion.

What Deontay's trainers said is irrelevant in hindsight considering the circumstances ( Deontay's injury and Fury upsetting Klitschko ).

People who don't know shit about boxing didn't give Ruiz a shot. He was a threat.

I'm pretty sure even the hardcore did not give Andy a chance either.

Fury outboxed him at least 9/12 rounds. Stevie Wonder could see that a draw and a 115/111 card for Wilder were ridiculous.

The UK's Judge Phil Edwards, Tyson's countryman had it a draw on the official scores, sorry.

Who cares about what a casual would think about Szpilka or Ruiz? Ruiz is the better fighter.

I never argued Szpilka was better, you missed the humor.

Wilder ducked $120m and Ortiz's team priced him out of the AJ bout.

Well yeah, you get 36 minutes to land the one punch you need for a KO. You don't have to be Muhammad Ali, to land 1 or 2 solid punches in a 12 round contest. As for the CompuBox numbers, well it can't be too difficult to land jabs, when most of the guys you fight are from homeless shelters.

Did you know that Deontay Wilder is surpassing Muhammed Ali's consecutive title defense streak with a victory over Luis Ortiz next week?! This is amazing!

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What Deontay's trainers said is irrelevant in hindsight considering the circumstances ( Deontay's injury and Fury upsetting Klitschko ).

They wouldn't have fought him, even if he wasn't injured. Besides, Klitschko wasn't the only other champion. Once Fury left, AJ was left fighting Martin and Parker.

I'm pretty sure even the hardcore did not give Andy a chance either.

Can we stop pretending like his only loss wasn't a close decision against Joseph Parker? He was the underdog, but he was never a bum.

The UK's Judge Phil Edwards, Tyson's countryman had it a draw on the official scores, sorry.

Phil Edwards didn't know what he was watching.

So, Wilder turned down over twice as much as he offered AJ? Cool.

Did you know that Deontay Wilder is surpassing Muhammed Ali's consecutive title defense streak with a victory over Luis Ortiz next week?! This is amazing!

He's surpassing Ali's record against who? Breaking Ali's record doesn't mean shit, when you've done it mostly against cab drivers, and got a gift decision.