FOX Sports EVP on Chris Mannix Podcast

[Eff Pandas]

Isolationism in boxing is reaching a whole new level, death of the sport feels closer than ever

Lol. Cmon man.

Ill take the over on boxings demise all day every day til the day I f#cking die.

Honestly & Ive said this over n over for over 10yrs the best thing that could happen to boxing is it keeps getting smaller & smaller til someone with some money, brains & balls swoops in & can make it the more inclusive sport it needs to & should be.

But dying isnt going down ever. People love fighting too much. Its in our nature as ultimately animals.

How boxing looks may change, like its done many times before, but its never leaving. Im the mfer saying virtual reality boxing is gonna be a thing when mfers too ***** & too scared of brain damage to reallllllly get hit in the head.

[Eff Pandas]

They don't need to make a PBC belt appealing to a non-PBC fighter as I doubt they'd allow non-PBC fighters to fight for them.

So Bud vs Errol never happens? Or if Bud beats Errol hes not the PBC title holder?

Idk if Im a fan of either of those outcomes. Either it stops big fights from happening or it insures this "PBC" belt is just one more bs belt & whats the point of one more bs corrupt "world" entity on boxing?

What's more appealing to fans? PBC claiming there is only one champion or ESPN & DAZN insisting there are five champions?

Idk that either is appealing when the bottom line reality will still be that we have a clusterf#ck of confusion with whos The Real Champion & not just a title holder.

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

So Bud vs Errol never happens? Or if Bud beats Errol hes not the PBC title holder?

Idk if Im a fan of either of those outcomes. Either it stops big fights from happening or it insures this "PBC" belt is just one more bs belt & whats the point of one more bs corrupt "world" entity on boxing?

We're not getting Bud vs Errol regardless. When was the last time a PBC a-side faced a TR a-side in a fight that wasn't a mandatory?

When the PBC take over is complete, the public won't have to deal with these promotional stalemates like they do now. In UFC, when the fans want to see a fight, chances are it's going to happen. Once PBC takes over, it'll be the same thing. Crawford isn't going to stay with Arum forever if Arum can't get him big fights. He'll jump to PBC eventually like Pacquiao did.

[DaNeutral.]

Im interested in finding out who the best Boxers are in the sport. Not who the best Boxers are under 1 promotional set up. Its no good calling Spence the PBC Welterweight champ when there is Bud Crawford who most people think is better than Spence. To PBC employees and PBC fangimps it will be great. For the rest of Boxing fans Spence PBC belt would mean jack sheet.

If the PBC can get all the top fighters on their books and it turns in to Boxings version of UFC then screw it why not. These sanctioning bodies are all getting out of control and something needs to be done. But i dont deny i HATE the PBC cuz they lie and cheat and are shady as hell and dont do whats best for their fighters so id rather somebody else gave it a go. Somebody i would have more faith in. The PBC are no better than the corrupt sanctioning bodies and they have also seemed to gathered up a load of racists to shill for them on social media.

Bud Crawford is number 1 at Welterweight in the eyes of most Boxing fans and experts. Ignoring him and calling Spence the PBC champ doesnt really mean much at all when most of us feel Bud beats Spence quite easy.

[Eff Pandas]

It will be interesting to see poster reaction to the PBC belt thing. Many posters have expressed dissatisfaction with the sanctioning bodies. If PBC were more like UFC then it would be a great idea. Right now I am skeptical.

I get there is a major beef between Haymon and the WBO but not recognizing Crawford seems petty.

If Ruiz and Wilder win and Haymon scraps the Wilder/Fury 2 fight to make the unification next my guess is the WBO belt gets vacated and Fury/AJ will be for that belt.

How can PBC even be like the UFC with the division in boxing & when they wont make the biggest fights they can on the regular?

I dont see it. Granted PBC seems more steered with this PPV stuff theyve been doing to making their big fights but they STILL arent making their biggest fights on the reg or the fights fans most wanna see. The PBC universe of boxers has the most quality boxers overall, but the PBC still needs to eff with guys & their promoters like Loma, Bud, Canelo & AJ to make some of the biggest fights in the game. I cant imagine how they kill competitors or take attention from them when the competitors got the other side of the biggest fights outside of bringing them inside the fold or them getting knocked off to randoms or guys who end up joining the fold. But if this is long game sh^t maybe 10yrs down the line the impact of PBC wears down guys or enlightens guys on the possibilities of a non-promoter career.

[Eff Pandas]

We're not getting Bud vs Errol regardless. When was the last time a PBC a-side faced a TR a-side in a fight that wasn't a mandatory?

When the PBC take over is complete, the public won't have to deal with these promotional stalemates like they do now. In UFC, when the fans want to see a fight, chances are it's going to happen. Once PBC takes over, it'll be the same thing. Crawford isn't going to stay with Arum forever if Arum can't get him big fights. He'll jump to PBC eventually like Pacquiao did.

Not a fan of most of this in the immediate future cuz idk that Errol has a big PBC fight vs Manny coming so Bud is The Fight now to make.

And I suspect most fans are even digging this less than I am. Hard to win the money & ratings of fans when their hearts & minds are rooting against you.

But if this is standard Al long game sh^t itll get there, but f#ck man we all gonna die one day & Al aint gonna live forever either. Idk if this "takeover" is gonna happen by PBC. I kinda just think Al is making +EV money moves while hoping for the possibilities of a takeover that is a longshot at best.

[Motorcity Cobra]

10-12% of PPV buys come from digital.

Obviously FOX gets to keep more of the revenue on digital buys than cable/satellite buys.

That's almost $3 mil revenue on a 300k PPV. And the digital buys are only expanding. That's why ESPN went exclusive with UFC PPV on the app.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Great Interview by Chris! He is a DAZN Guy so he was trying hard to get some dirt

Most people didn't notice that

[Motorcity Cobra]

I disagree. This comes down to what happens with Canelo and the TR boxers. Once all of Canelo's big fights dry up on dazn what does he do? Same for Crawford at TR?

Canelo can be an Independent and get fights with anyone because he is a draw. Crawford maybe comes to PBC since they have all the WW and JWW's. TR will be able to make plenty of fights at the lower weights given all their fighters.

The other big thing is if dazn gets a major sports deal. They would have to use resources for that sport and the support programming, which will mean many fighters signed to the app will probably be let go. Where will they go?

I think this could end up being the start of the sport making a positive turn.

The four major sports in America is isolated and people love it. They only play teams within their leagues Do people not understand this?

[Jsmooth9876]

The four major sports in America is isolated and people love it. They only play teams within their leagues Do people not understand this?

And hows this relate to boxing in any way?

Are there other football teams out there that we think may be better than the Patriots every year but we never see them play because team X refuses to join the NFL?

Or how about some rando basketball team that claim to have been a better dynasty than than the Warriors playing in the Mississippi mens church league. They just never got their chance cause they were on the wrong side of the street I guess