I'm really not hating on Canelo here...

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  • Boxing_1013
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    I'm really not hating on Canelo here...

    OK I figured that would draw some people in.

    But seriously I just put some pieces together here...we just saw that Kovalev had some weird surgery done on his knuckles...and we know his last fight with Yarde was close to this fight, on August 25th.

    We know that VADA testing for Canelo-Kov began the middle of September.

    We know that steroid cycles last can last from 6-16 weeks.

    Thus we know that Kovalev couldn't cycle/use PEDs for this fight...he would have gotten caught...and apparently his hand/hands were **** going into the Canelo fight anyway...and Canelo still wanted to put the 10 pound 2nd day weigh in on him.

    Canelo's last fight was in May of 2019...thus he could have cycled for about 4 months heading into this fight...and still stopped by mid-September when VADA testing began.

    Lol I'm really not even hating on Canelo...he still went up to 175 and fought a guy...but man I think all the pieces are coming together now.

    He was on PEDs...he knew Kov couldn't be/he wouldn't allow Kov to be...Kov's hand/hands were also shot...Kov probably knew to get the fight he had to take it then, and also allow Nelo to be on PEDs/while he couldn't use...and he still threw the 10 pound clause on him for good measure lol.

    To be fair I think all these guys are on PEDs...look at when they announce fights...they do it as close to the fight date as possible so the testing is delayed...even my guy GGG, we all know the fight with Szeremeta is coming soon...but for whatever reason the official announcement won't be until it is within 90 days of the fight when guys can cycle off.

    But yeah cycling up, while not allowing your opponent to do so...and also when his hands are shot...and you add that weight clause for good measure lol.

    I mean it is just clearer to me now as to why this fight actually got made...and how all the talk about 'risks' is relative anyway...when you are the A-side like Canelo, you don't really take risks...it would be ****** to do so, money-wise.
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    #2
    man, its ok man, it really is..

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    • Boxing_1013
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      #3
      Originally posted by historian larry
      man, its ok man, it really is..
      Lol well thanks for the bump man...and I probably have less emotion invested in any fight or fighters than most on this site...I really don't give two sh.its...I call it like I see it on fights/fighters but if people see it differently than me, oh well...who cares.

      I just couldn't figure out the 'why' for the whole Canelo Kovalev situation for a while...and as often happens, time reveals a lot of what you were wanting to know.

      Can you refute anything I wrote though...what part doesn't add up to you..genuinely curious, not a snarky or rhetorical question

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      • LADIV
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        #4
        Originally posted by Jalen Rose
        OK I figured that would draw some people in.

        But seriously I just put some pieces together here...we just saw that Kovalev had some weird surgery done on his knuckles...and we know his last fight with Yarde was close to this fight, on August 25th.

        We know that VADA testing for Canelo-Kov began the middle of September.

        We know that steroid cycles last can last from 6-16 weeks.

        Thus we know that Kovalev couldn't cycle/use PEDs for this fight...he would have gotten caught...and apparently his hand/hands were **** going into the Canelo fight anyway...and Canelo still wanted to put the 10 pound 2nd day weigh in on him.

        Canelo's last fight was in May of 2019...thus he could have cycled for about 4 months heading into this fight...and still stopped by mid-September when VADA testing began.

        Lol I'm really not even hating on Canelo...he still went up to 175 and fought a guy...but man I think all the pieces are coming together now.

        He was on PEDs...he knew Kov couldn't be/he wouldn't allow Kov to be...Kov's hand/hands were also shot...Kov probably knew to get the fight he had to take it then, and also allow Nelo to be on PEDs/while he couldn't use...and he still threw the 10 pound clause on him for good measure lol.

        To be fair I think all these guys are on PEDs...look at when they announce fights...they do it as close to the fight date as possible so the testing is delayed...even my guy GGG, we all know the fight with Szeremeta is coming soon...but for whatever reason the official announcement won't be until it is within 90 days of the fight when guys can cycle off.

        But yeah cycling up, while not allowing your opponent to do so...and also when his hands are shot...and you add that weight clause for good measure lol.

        I mean it is just clearer to me now as to why this fight actually got made...and how all the talk about 'risks' is relative anyway...when you are the A-side like Canelo, you don't really take risks...it would be ****** to do so, money-wise.
        started to read and you said you were not hating on nelo
        But you accusing him of taking ped's
        And then I stopped reading after you said MY GUY GGG...sounds like a hater to me

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          #5
          Originally posted by LADIV
          started to read and you said you were not hating on nelo
          But you accusing him of taking ped's
          And then I stopped reading after you said MY GUY GGG...sounds like a hater to me
          Thanks for reading...I just said 'my guy' GGG since most who know me on here know I rate GGG pretty highly..and for example had him winning the two fights with Nelo...but I have never really said a cross word about Canelo either, and think he is a great fighter as well...how could I not...he gave GGG two really good fights.

          But yeah can you refute what I said about the cycles...I mean it just makes sense to me...and also if you read my next line about GGG, I basically accuse him of PEDs in the next sentence anyway lol.

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            Originally posted by Jalen Rose
            Thanks for reading...I just said 'my guy' GGG since most who know me on here know I rate GGG pretty highly..and for example had him winning the two fights with Nelo...but I have never really said a cross word about Canelo either, and think he is a great fighter as well...how could I not...he gave GGG two really good fights.

            But yeah can you refute what I said about the cycles...I mean it just makes sense to me...and also if you read my next line about GGG, I basically accuse him of PEDs in the next sentence anyway lol.

            Yeah you a hating ass biitch.
            Fucc off lame!

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            • Boxing_1013
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              #7
              Originally posted by BigStomps
              Yeah you a hating ass biitch.
              Fucc off lame!
              Hey man I thought we were bros

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              • daggum
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                #8
                when you want a cherry you will go to great lengths to get it like the time floyd wanted a mosley cherry so bad he paid off berto millions of dollars just to grab mosley since there was a good chance mosley would lose. conversely when there are cherries you don't want you wait for them to go bad so you can grab them off the ground, wipe them off, adn say "look i got it, brand new!"

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                • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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                  #9
                  Canelo Ruining peoples lives out here lol... I LOVE IT!

                  WAR CANELO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • Zaroku
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                    #10
                    I am not trying to hate on GGG or nothing like that, but he could have fought SOG, and a lot of other guys at 168 and showed us Mexican Style.

                    I do not hate any boxers, unless they do some flagrant bs, or act too much the fool.

                    I do however dislike most fanboys.

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