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Originally posted by Adamsc151 View PostMaybe Hunter is a step too far in terms of ability, I'd be looking to see if Dubois can handle a skillful come forward counter-puncher; he's shown he can beat opponents who get on their bike and ones who keep a tight guard.
I'd agree on Wallin/Martin/Breazeale, but not Allen. I like the guy, but he's shortened his career with some poor decisions and is starting to look shot already. Dubois-Chisora would be a good rumble and test of the young lads mentality - everyone knows the games Del Boy plays to get under peoples skin.
I get the feeling that Warren is going to try and bring a host of decently ranked fighters from random countries to the UK. He's got Fujimoto, then it'll be the likes of Zhang, Miljas, Fa, Takam, Kean, Duhaupas, Demirezen, Romanov (didn't he fail to get Leapai over ?); and make a point of promoting Dubois as a literal World-beater - without ever actually fighting away from home of course. If he's brave, Warren will try to include Ajagba, Hrgovic, Rivas or Kabayel, but that's a big if.
The biggest trouble they'll find is fringe world level guys will want a fortune to fight him, they know how good he is and how hard he punches. Getting knocked out by a prospect affects their future earnings so they want retirement money. Also, Hearn uses a lot of these HW's and can pay them more with that DAZN money.
DDD-Chisora would be ideal this time next year imo, the problem is Del didn't even want to fight Joyce so don't think he'd fight DDD.
Hammer gave Ortiz some problems when they fought so would be a good first fight next year imo, then 2 fights against Wallin/Jennings/Martin/Breazeale then Chisora in December.
Btw, I was there when the man in your avi fought and beat Kessler, best night of my life. What a fighter.
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Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View PostI like Dubois and he looks promising but he literally hasn't done anything in the pros. He beat another unproven prospect in Gorman. And as far as I can see that's it
Warren needs to step him up so we can actually see how he compares to good boxers.
At fight #14, who was wilder fighting?
Hypocrisy is killing this sport immensely.
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Originally posted by gully7 View PostHunter???? That's crazy, Hunter is world level and has the movement to outbox DDD. He wont be ready for Hunter for a good 12 months, its not worth the risk.
I'd step him up to genuine world level when he's 24 (just under 2 years) then get him a title shot a year later, he could be a champion in 3 years and still only be 25 and could dominate for 10 years.
Give him 2 years of the likes of Allen/Wallin/Jennings/Martin/Breazeale
I'd agree on Wallin/Martin/Breazeale, but not Allen. I like the guy, but he's shortened his career with some poor decisions and is starting to look shot already. Dubois-Chisora would be a good rumble and test of the young lads mentality - everyone knows the games Del Boy plays to get under peoples skin.
I get the feeling that Warren is going to try and bring a host of decently ranked fighters from random countries to the UK. He's got Fujimoto, then it'll be the likes of Zhang, Miljas, Fa, Takam, Kean, Duhaupas, Demirezen, Romanov (didn't he fail to get Leapai over ?); and make a point of promoting Dubois as a literal World-beater - without ever actually fighting away from home of course. If he's brave, Warren will try to include Ajagba, Hrgovic, Rivas or Kabayel, but that's a big if.
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Originally posted by Adamsc151 View PostWith Dubois, I think he's already past the stage of needing journeymen, even fringe contenders. The next step is fighting genuine top 15 contenders, not just someone with an over-inflated ranking due to a regional belt. I'd like to see him in against someone like Kabayel, Hunter, Kownacki within a fight or 2.
I'd step him up to genuine world level when he's 24 (just under 2 years) then get him a title shot a year later, he could be a champion in 3 years and still only be 25 and could dominate for 10 years.
Give him 2 years of the likes of Allen/Wallin/Jennings/Martin/Breazeale
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Originally posted by JuanSkinner View PostExactly. Still very young as well. That first Ghanaian dude he thought was there to do damage and he handled it well
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Originally posted by Adamsc151 View PostGenerally, Warren is slow - almost Haymon slow - at progressing his prospects. Usually he goes for at least 20-25 journeymen before going stepping up to fringe contenders.
With Yarde, he went straight from fighting bums to a title shot around the mid-20's mark and came unstuck - you have to have at least a few genuinely testing fights before trying to dethrone a champ.
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