Comments Thread For: WBC Prez: We've Had Canelo as P4P #1 Since He Beat Golovkin

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  • aboutfkntime
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    #51
    Originally posted by JLC
    I agree that Loma and Terrance have better defense.

    I agree that Terrance is obviously more versatile

    I will add that Loma has better consistent footwork and movememt.

    I think that Canelo obviously has much better power than either guy.

    I think he is a slightly better counter puncher than either guy.

    My thoughts. That is all eye test level stuff, which does play a large factor in determining P4P. But again, resume should hold the most weight. I understand P4P is an imaginary title, and is subjective, but when substance and results can be used, they should be, and dammit, resume matters more to me. LOL.

    In regards to his close decisions, I will paste in something that I said in a different thread: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...7#post19432547



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    He won the fights. He gets credit for the fights. Not all fights are going to be a clear 115-113 or better, and there is nothing that Cotto or Lara did to Canelo to make me thing they dominated him. Close battles I thought they won, and the judges thought they lost.

    GGG had the clearest "victory" over Canelo to me in the first fight, but was most certainly outfought in the rematch.

    Unless we are talking Pacquaio Bradley 1, or a robbery on that level, I count a guys wins as wins.



    not having a go man, because you seem honest... but do you really think Cotto won that fight...?

    how... ?

    I have heard posters argue that Canelo lost to Lara... and I even heard someone say that Canelo lost to Trout... but yea, never heard anyone suggest that Cotto beat Canelo

    no problem, we are all entitled to our opinion

    Lara makes it extremely hard to judges to score for him, thats all I have to say on the subject of Canelo losing

    to me, aside from Mayweather... the closest fight he ever had was the first Golovkin fight... and I got no problem with a draw or a 1-point win to Golovkin

    it seems like people have fun saying that Canelo lost lol

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    • JLC
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      #52
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      not having a go man, because you seem honest... but do you really think Cotto won that fight...?

      how... ?

      I have heard posters argue that Canelo lost to Lara... and I even heard someone say that Canelo lost to Trout... but yea, never heard anyone suggest that Cotto beat Canelo

      no problem, we are all entitled to our opinion

      Lara makes it extremely hard to judges to score for him, thats all I have to say on the subject of Canelo losing

      to me, aside from Mayweather... the closest fight he ever had was the first Golovkin fight... and I got no problem with a draw or a 1-point win to Golovkin

      it seems like people have fun saying that Canelo lost lol

      My boxing eye is probably messed up. I watched Mayweather V De La Hoya again like three years ago and I swear Oscar won that ****. So take my scorecards with a grain of salt.

      Also thought Khan was wayyy ahead on scorecards when he fought Alvarez. I don’t know **** about boxing.

      Point is, the close fights still count whether we agree with them or not. Close fight does not equal robbery. Everything isn’t going to be 116-112, which is why we watch the sport in the first place.

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