Comments Thread For: Showtime's Espinoza: No Sport Lies To Its Fans Like Boxing

[Scipio2009]

like the head of a network saying they care about boxing and the best facing the best, but only really caring if he can make it for his network, otherwise blocking it. and since his network offer less money for the top fights like aj-wilder and even lesser fights like tank-farmer, it means they're blocking more often than not. this guy is stopping the best fights, his network constantly putting on intentional mismatches, but he's blaming everyone else

Tevin Farmer got a standing 1st offer of $2m to fight Davis on Showtime (when he apparently got $2m for the 4 DAZN fights, and is now waiting on Diaz to get Golden Boy Promotions to go into their $2m a show Canelo residual ($90m over 50 shows is what's been said) to get paid), and Showtime helped lead the money for the $50m guarantee that Joshua asked for to fight Wilder (MGM Resorts hosting, SHOPPV, and a lump sum from Eddie Hearn so that Matchroom Sport could sell the fight on Sky Box Office).

Don't be ******

[Scipio2009]

Premier did the same thing to the WBO and more importantly, to Crawford. Big deal.

Espinosa should’ve been fired years ago when he couldn’t produce the Pacquiao fight with Mayweather Jr.

Showtime will be gone in two years and he’ll be even more immaterial than he currently is.

Would you like to bet on it?

Wilder is starting to emerge as a PPV star, Spence Jr is starting to emerge as a PPV star, Davis is getting to that point, the sheer number of talent under the PBC banner isn't matched anywhere, and Canelo is basically on a platform that isn't converting anyone because they're so choking on the guaranteed money they laid out to get the few name fighters they have.

[Scipio2009]

following up a fight that should have been abner mares with gamboa is just not compelling for the heir apparent to become the face of boxing.

he just hasnt fought anyone yet is treated like a king
he just hasnt entertained me in years yet his producer acts like he deserves everything and more

gervonta - just fight someone competitive and become a champion and ill care

fight mikey garcia and win and ill care
quit fighting cab drivers
someone will be coming up the ranks too much time is passing and you dont have enough activity and you will be exposed and i will laugh and never had to have bought your ppv

Yuriorkis Gamboa, since losing to Crawford, is 7-1; say what you want about who he's faced.

With Farmer turning down the fight, and Berchelt/Cancio/Herring with Bob Arum, who did you earnestly expect him to fight?

[Scipio2009]

PBC might be single handedly killing boxing... all PBC fighters scream " that fight is still building or not ready" and nobody is a main stream fighter nothing wrong with the in stable fights at all.. but when you have good fights to be made like Tank vs Lomo/ Haney/Farmer or Spence vs Crawford man it sucks... Floyd with Top Rank fought fighters from other promoters so did Oscar and list goes on.. seems to me showtime might not be to happy with the way PBC has been running show.

Man it sucks waiting 5 or 10 years for fights...

Spence-Danny, Pacquiao-Mikey, Wilder-Fury 2, Benevidez-Plant, Williams-Harrison/Charlo winner, Davis-Santa Cruz, Charlo-Eubank/Korobov winner, and the mix of other top fights at 147lbs, 154lbs
are all in the cue for 2020.

Nice try though

[deanrw]

How can say they are lying when the entire conversation is opinion based? There is no magical fact sheet given from God telling us who the biggest P4P punchers are. It is about opinions.

[Cinci Champ]

Fox side of PBC is the worst, aint got the balls to call that one out though

worse then dazn promoters i mean announcers? no shot

[tritium_arma]

A snake like Espinosa would know.

[boxing90]

Spence-Danny, Pacquiao-Mikey, Wilder-Fury 2, Benevidez-Plant, Williams-Harrison/Charlo winner, Davis-Santa Cruz, Charlo-Eubank/Korobov winner, and the mix of other top fights at 147lbs, 154lbs
are all in the cue for 2020.

Nice try though

Spence vs Danny is not for certain.. & Cruz has to move up to 135 pounds to face Davis..

[Scipio2009]

Spence vs Danny is not for certain.. & Cruz has to move up to 135 pounds to face Davis..

Simply going on what's been said; as dangerous as car accidents can be, word's gotten out that Spence Jr didn't break any bones (allegedly busted a bunch of teeth though), was already out on IG walking to his new car after the accident, and the fight's been called for by the WBC.

The formal timing is unclear now, but it seems like Pacquiao is going to get the first PPV (January/February), Wilder is likely to get the next PPV (February/March, depending on how Ortiz 2 goes), Danny Garcia will likely get a tickover fight for early 2020, and the Spence-Danny PPV likely gets moved to May/June (Canelo no longer having the marketing money behind him to clear May, if not his date).

And Davis has already said, in public no less, that he wants the smoke at 135lbs and 130lbs.

[BennyBlanco]

Nobody lies like Stephen Espinoza. Tank wasn't left out of the ESPN list of biggest puchers. The list only included fighters who are currently world champions and Tank vacated his title.

When did Espinoza mention Davis? Look at the quotes. He didn't say Davis once.

Espinoza is talking about wanting to have unbiased announcers. What's wrong with that? We all dislike biased announcers, and I think most people would agree that Showtime is less biased than the other networks. What's there to disagree with?