The WBC Increase Threshold For More PEDS What If The IBF Protected Black Fighters

[Marchegiano]

From the Mighty L D B C:



okay, maybe a bit much, but, dude has a point. WBC should not be protecting Mexicans.

IBF is like the only American body, if you wonder why he asks about the IBF covering black asses.

Anyway, my dude asked to be spread, I'm spreading.


Edit- Feel bad for my dude spreadsheet. I worded that **** like he's a bit much for me, I love that he goes in with passion actually. I meant I understand he might be a bit much for y'all.

[Thuglife Nelo]

You yourself are LDBC that’s why you asked me dumb questions about TIMESTAMPS...

And the WBC didn’t “increase” anything. They’re acknowledging, WITH NO OTHER CHOICE, to follow WADA’s new rule or else the WBC could get sued. But none of that matters, cause they had already acknowledged nano traces since Francisco Vargas. Most boxing fans don’t follow these simple things..

[Citizen Koba]

You yourself are LDBC that’s why you asked me dumb questions about TIMESTAMPS...

And the WBC didn’t “increase” anything. They’re acknowledging, WITH NO OTHER CHOICE, to follow WADA’s new rule or else the WBC could get sued. But none of that matters, cause they had already acknowledged nano traces since Francisco Vargas. Most boxing fans don’t follow these simple things..

They have a choice, but yeah, there's the potential to get sued.

Do we know whether the WBC ruling effects boxers from everywhere? I mean - can all fighters exploit this potential loophole or does it only apply to Mexicans, Chinese and Guatamalans like the interim WADA ruling?

Mmm..

https://www.***************.net/2019...erol-wbc-wada/

(W B N)

No. It looks like the rest of the world still ain't allowed.

Gotta say that to me it looks wide open to potential abuse, but it is what it is. A mid range the****utic dose yields a urinary concentration of something like 40ng/ml if I remember arite... that would metabolise down to within threshold in less than 5 days, maybe 6 or 7 if it's daily use. What did your dude on the video say - Dr Boer was it? 9ng/ml for the lowest effective concentration.. that would be threshold within 33 hours or so. Meh.. what's the point? Might as well get used to it cos it ain't gonna change now.

In some ways the WBC virtually had no choice - a Mexican org sworn to represent Mexican boxers. What they gonna do? You gotta wonder if they woulda been so quick to change the ish if it'd been Chinese dudes popping left and right though.

I call bullchit on them being genuine in their desire to clean up the sport, but then we all knew that anyway... I'll be interested to see whether the other senctioning orgs follow suite.


Shit. I just hope they get the fkn hair tests sorted out sooner rather than later though. Maybe we'll see how dedicated the WBC are then.


EDIT: What I hope we do see is opponent notification in the event of an ATF... I think that's something we should all be able to agree on in the aftermath of the Whyte case. The WBC night not be able to prove wrongdoing but the opponent deserves the right to decide if they wish to face someone who could have been using a PED.

[Thuglife Nelo]

They have a choice, but yeah, there's the potential to get sued.

Do we know whether the WBC ruling effects boxers from everywhere? I mean - can all fighters exploit this potential loophole or does it only apply to Mexicans, Chinese and Guatamalans like the interim WADA ruling?

Mmm..

https://www.***************.net/2019...erol-wbc-wada/

(W B N)

No. It looks like the rest of the world still ain't allowed.

Gotta say that to me it looks wide open to potential abuse, but it is what is. A mid range the****utic dose yields a urinary concentration of something like 40ng/ml if I remember arite... that would metabolise down to within threshold in less than 5 days, maybe 6 or 7 if it's daily use. Meh.. what's the point? Might as well get used to it cos it ain't gonna change now.

In some ways the WBC virtually had no choice - a Mexican org sworn to represent Mexican boxers. What they gonna do? You gotta wonder if they woulda been so quick to change the ish if it'd been Chinese dudes popping left and right though.

You’re confused. Many athletes, like those I showed whom were exonerated by USADA with Clen had no “Mexicans.” You’re confusing location vs nationality. In fact the one I showed with USADA had some Chinese athletes whom were exonerated with Clen from sports outside of boxing.

And remember WBC CBP is voluntary. You think the thousands of boxers in such territories whom are ranked high are doing VADA? Of course not! Can’t afford it nor need to worry if you’re not too 15. Plus, top 15 I assume ain’t easy to begin with. There’s more probability of Mexicans in top 15’s than Russians or Chinese below LHW.

[Thuglife Nelo]

They have a choice, but yeah, there's the potential to get sued.

Do we know whether the WBC ruling effects boxers from everywhere? I mean - can all fighters exploit this potential loophole or does it only apply to Mexicans, Chinese and Guatamalans like the interim WADA ruling?

Mmm..

https://www.***************.net/2019...erol-wbc-wada/

(W B N)

No. It looks like the rest of the world still ain't allowed.

Gotta say that to me it looks wide open to potential abuse, but it is what it is. A mid range the****utic dose yields a urinary concentration of something like 40ng/ml if I remember arite... that would metabolise down to within threshold in less than 5 days, maybe 6 or 7 if it's daily use. What did your dude on the video say - Dr Boer was it? 9ng/ml for the lowest effective concentration.. that would be threshold within 33 hours or so. Meh.. what's the point? Might as well get used to it cos it ain't gonna change now.

In some ways the WBC virtually had no choice - a Mexican org sworn to represent Mexican boxers. What they gonna do? You gotta wonder if they woulda been so quick to change the ish if it'd been Chinese dudes popping left and right though.

I call bullchit on them being genuine in their desire to clean up the sport, but then we all knew that anyway... I'll be interested to see whether the other senctioning orgs follow suite.


Shit. I just hope they get the fkn hair tests sorted out sooner rather than later though. Maybe we'll see how dedicated the WBC are then.

2000 picos = 2 nanograms

Vargas = 1.2ng

Canelo = .6ng

[Citizen Koba]

You’re confused. Many athletes, like those I showed whom were exonerated by USADA with Clen had no “Mexicans.” You’re confusing location vs nationality. In fact the one I showed with USADA had some Chinese athletes whom were exonerated with Clen from sports outside of boxing.

And remember WBC CBP is voluntary. You think the thousands of boxers in such territories whom are ranked high are doing VADA? Of course not! Can’t afford it nor need to worry if you’re not too 15. Plus, top 15 I assume ain’t easy to begin with. There’s more probability of Mexicans in top 15’s than Russians or Chinese below LHW.

Indeed. The decision on whether punitive action is taken is dependent on whether they were exposed to meat from a nation where contamination is an issue, not upon the nationality of the athlete themselves. Nonetheless that does mean that in the vast majority it will effect athletes who live in those countries (China, Mexico and Guatamala per the WADA interim protocols).

And yeah... the lower level athletes will pretty much be unaffected... hell even the dudes in the CPB won't be too worried, I looked through the lists of out of competition testees a while back and tbh it was almost non existent and I gather things ain't improved.

Guess we don't need to worry then... Testing procedures are so lax anyway what does it matter if a few Mexicans and Chinese have a built in excuses for getting popped for Clen?

[Citizen Koba]

2000 picos = 2 nanograms

Vargas = 1.2ng

Canelo = .6ng

Yeah I know the figures. Vargas would have been over threshold 5 days earlier if he'd been abusing Clen. Canelo would have been over threshold 6 days earlier if he'd been abusing Clen. Let's just hope they weren't hey?

[sicko]

I would have to call BS on this one respectfully!

I am not going to accuse Sulaiman and the WBC of such BS when they gave Mayweather the same damn Privileges if not MORE! Mayweather did what he wanted when he wanted and the late Jose Sulaiman (RIP) allowed him to do things his way and did not try to pressure him into doing anything he didn't want to do. It is about the $$$, yes the WBC want their Belt around the Faces of Boxing and the guys who generate the most money absolutely! I think that is what it is about for them more than anything including RACE!

Look, I get it, for some they have a issue with Canelo currently being the face of boxing but it is mostly because he is not who they PREFER to be the face of boxing. It is some who had hopes that GGG would become it by knocking out Canelo and they're forever bitter that did not happen. You have others who want Wilder to be the face of boxing so they're on this mission to downplay all the other fighters including Canelo to build up Wilder as "The Best". Speaking of Wilder, months ago wasn't Sulaiman also accused of Protecting Wilder? So which one is it exactly?

Boxing Fans act like Spoiled Children, when they don't get their way a lot of you come on here and just complain and scream "Robbery!" "Drug Cheat" "Racism" "Fixed" all because the guy you wanted to win couldn't get the job done

[Thuglife Nelo]

Yeah I know the figures. Vargas would have been over threshold 5 days earlier if he'd been abusing Clen. Canelo would have been over threshold 6 days earlier if he'd been abusing Clen. Let's just hope they weren't hey?

I used to predict the half lifes by the scientific studies, but we both know there’s going to be (and probably high contrast) between individuals for how the body breaks down the substance, just by couple hours difference.

The reason why I always bring up Vargas is because there’s cryptic evidence from tape involving Pugmire and Rafael asking Vargas’ handlers regarding the Clen scandal. There’s literally TESTIMONY of Dan Rafael saying “btw I believe you guys” regarding the meat contamination from Vargas.

So my questions are, with Rafael and Pugmire having been soooo heavily biased on GGG, why didn’t they report scandals that industry had exempt Vargas, including VADA, from stories they covered? They could’ve easily made su****ion towards GBP since Vargas was with them. But then that would mean that Lance and Rafael would be exposing VADA. See how that works?

It’s almost as if Pugmire and Rafael were all part of some grand scheme to help sell GGG vs Canelo since they what was waived before. Why didn’t they question Vargas? The simplest reason is perhaps these writers know the dark side of boxing and would be doing boxing a disservice, acknowledging that it isn’t perfect...

At the very least, they should’ve sided with Canelo then. But we know Pugmire is a Loeffler sister frat crew, and Rafael swore by GGG for years. It’s all weird shet

[Citizen Koba]

I used to predict the half lifes by the scientific studies, but we both know there’s going to be (and probably high contrast) between individuals for how the body breaks down the substance, just by couple hours difference.

The reason why I always bring up Vargas is because there’s cryptic evidence from tape involving Pugmire and Rafael asking Vargas’ handlers regarding the Clen scandal. There’s literally TESTIMONY of Dan Rafael saying “btw I believe you guys” regarding the meat contamination from Vargas.

So my questions are, with Rafael and Pugmire having been soooo heavily biased on GGG, why didn’t they report scandals that industry had exempt Vargas, including VADA, from stories they covered? They could’ve easily made su****ion towards GBP since Vargas was with them. But then that would mean that Lance and Rafael would be exposing VADA. See how that works?

It’s almost as if Pugmire and Rafael were all part of some grand scheme to help sell GGG vs Canelo since they what was waived before. Why didn’t they question Vargas? The simplest reason is perhaps these writers know the dark side of boxing and would be doing boxing a disservice, acknowledging that it isn’t perfect...

At the very least, they should’ve sided with Canelo then. But we know Pugmire is a Loeffler sister frat crew, and Rafael swore by GGG for years. It’s all weird shet

Yeah there will be some minor variability in half lives between individuals. Accepted average for Clenbuterol is about 35 - 36 hours in humans...but there's varaibility in all EHLs add or subtract a day either way from the figures I gave if you like.

As to the rest of it... yeah. What am I gonna say? I umm... Good luck with that. It all sounds very mysterious and intriguing.