Comments Thread For: Gervonta Davis: Not Haney's WBC Title Until He Fights For It!

[factsarenice]

Tank just refused to face Haney and everything else is window dressing.

[skinnystev]

the bum they lined up for hainey's saturday night defence

(Alfredo Santiago Alvarez) is a disgrace ranked 31st in the world at 135 they all call out lomachenko but refuse to fight each other fight bums instead hainey, davis lopez garcia stevenson all whining frauds other than lomachenko commey is the only one at 135 with any creds

[Boksfan]

Fat lesbian Davis is jealous of Hanye, how cute

[ShoulderRoll]

Haney was Lomachenko's mandatory.

Top Rank requested that the WBC designate Lomachenko as Franchise Champion.

Now Haney gets the WBC belt and Lomachenko can never be forced to fight him.

Those are just the facts.

[Letmaku]

Going back to 130 with less money is a nice move from Loma. Maybe Pacman vs Mikey Garcia at 140 is more explosive but with lesser money too!?

[TarasMarcenko]

Fact checking tells a different story. Lomachanko actually beat the champ for the WBC belt and now he's fighting for unification. After the unification...win or lose...Loma is moving back to his natural weight class because 135 is just too big. The decision to go back to 130 was made months prior and before Devin was even a blip on the screen.

Devin, whom I like, was given a belt just 2 months ago and only then started dropping Lomachenko's name. Devin saw Lopez elevate himself by using Loma's name and sought to do the same but he's chronologically too late. Devin will get traction and notoriety but the purest know Lomachenko was never staying at 135lbs.

I've written about this before, left dates and links. These are just facts, easily verifiable facts and I suggest you look them up or don't... and just keep ranting.

I liked Haney but the last few months he's become a whiney ***** and fans have really, really short attention span and memory.

Loma has been resting since he won the belt which Haney was just handed without a fight. He's been out of the media. Loma was to fight Commey earlier this year until Commey got hurt, thus the Campbell fight for the different belt. Haney was pissed because via the rules Loma was awarded the fight. It was only after Loma beat Campbell that Haney first called out Loma. Loma's 100% focus is on the winner of the Commey and Teofimo fight for the fourth belt. Loma recently did come out of his always 1 month recuperation after a fight and out of media approach to his post fight regime and said 'Haney and Tank are fights he wants in 2020 after the undisputed fight, for the fourth belt.' Now whether he can become undisputed now, now that Haney inherited that belt that Loma won in the Campbell fight remains to be seen. But Haney was never the priority, the fourth belt is and was. But Loma is not ducking anyone. He was forced to fight Crolla for a mandatory and that pissed him off because he only wants to fight the best. The Franchise designation gives him that opportunity. It's not to duck but to fight the best out there. Haney is just a whiny ***** at this point. A 20 year old acting like a 15 year old adolescent with his name calling. That's the epitome of bad parenting. His own father called Loma a mother f'r in the context of my son is going to knock out that mother f'r. You would never hear Loma denigrate another fighter in this manner. This is no consideration for the human and is back to base animal behavior. Loma is a class above Haney at this point and is quiet and not responding in kind. The Teo's and Haney's should fight each other. They come from the same non classy cloth. Teo's father went out into New York and knocked out a marathon runner, looked for someone to knock out, and then laughed and bragged about it. That's the low class I'm talking about. Loma is high class and high tech. The only reason he's at 135 is because he's dwarfed here and this is the advantage that drew out the belt holders. At 126 and 130 the Tanks and other belt holders avoided him like the plague. Loma has asked for Tank for two years now, but nary a whisper from the media. But Haney calls out for Loma for only two months and Loma is the one ducking. I call B.S. on the whole arena. Nary a whisper.

[TarasMarcenko]

Ya. I agree.

Someone should tell him that the WBA title He fought for at 130 and the one He fights for 135 isn't his either unless He fights real champion .
He's embarassing himself every time He opens his mouth.

Loma then Tank then Floyd

W L | W L | W L
opponent 25 03 | 00 04 | debut
opponent 41 12 | debut | 01 01
opponent 24 00 | debut | 06 03
opponent 51 01 | 04 07 | debut
opponent 25 02 | 01 01 | 09 09
opponent 25 04 | 02 08 | 19 08
opponent 29 02 | 03 09 | 12 15
opponent 26 00 | debut | 12 03
opponent 20 01 | 47 31 | 01 13
opponent 25 02 | 04 04 | 18 03
opponent 17 00 | 05 03 | 14 19
opponent 44 03 | 08 01 | 14 11
opponent 25 01 | 40 18 | 16 04
opponent 22 02 | 17 04 | 17 04

Loma has been calling out Davis for two years now. Before the Campbell fight, I mean three days before, Loma said he will go down to 130 to fight Davis after he unifies. After he beat Campbell, same night Loma beat him, Davis suddenly made the announcement of moving up to 135. The fact that Davis moved up to 135 is a fluid and brand new situation. Day after the Campbell fight, Arum said after unifying, Loma will fight the best at 135, 130 and 126. That's the latest information we have except after Loma was given the Franchise 'thing', Loma came out and said fights he wants in 2020 are the Commey and Teo winner for the fourth and then Haney and Tank. That's the latest anyone really knows. Loma knows the Tank fight is extremely intriguing. He also knows he most likely beats Tank.

And Pedrazza chimed in Septemter in fact, google it, and said flat out that Loma beats Tank. Pedrazza said Loma is faster and more skilled. He should know he fought them both. Interview everyone in Hamon's camp or Mayweather gym and they, 90%, say Tank wins. But behind closed doors I suspect it's nowhere near 90%, peer pressure and all while being on camera. The yahoos that know jack **** but say ****** **** about Loma, after Loma beats Tank, would put Tank on the heap pile of the other Eight Five Star Fighters Loma has faced and still not give credit to Loma. But you can fudge who they fought and history. Tank has fought abysmal competition in comparison to Loma. It's why Loma is on the P4P list and Tank doesn't even crack it. Who has Tank fought? He's been protected and protecting that perfect record (flim flam, smoke and mirrors) with F list opponents. He kept that perfect record by fighting crap opponents, who he knocked out. He ducked Loma for two years. It's why Loma moved to 135 where everyone has a size advantage over him. Because he made fighters at 126 and 130 run from him. Tank one of them. Anyone who was willing to face him were at 130 was humiliated. Fighters at 135 at least have the size advantage so they accept the fight on that premise, maybe they have a chance. Loma has to work double the effort against these larger fighters. Put him in with guys his own size and they quit.

Quality of fighter each has fought: Loma: Six, Three Star fighters; Zero, Four Star; and EIGHT Five Star
Tank: NINE, Zero Star fighters; FOUR, One Star; Five, Three star; Zero, Four Star; and ONE, Five Star.

Pedrazza came into the Tank fight on very short notice, accepting as a replacement and came down to 130 where he was drained and was said to be dead on his feet by those ringside before the fight even started. The broadcasters were aghast at how his strategy changed and he decided to stay in close the whole seven rounds and try to out punch Tank. And it still took tank seven rounds with that gift. Loma came into the fight three months off of rotator cuff surgery and didn't throw one right hook in the fight. Pedrazza came in in the best shape of his life at 135, his natural, and he had a full offseason to train and prepare. Tank fights drained guy and cans. Debut guys and worse. It takes a fighter a year to fully heal from that surgery yet Loma took it on. Because he's not protected, the Mayweather paradigm with Tank. Running from the other champions.

Tank and Haney should fight. But it won't happen. They are both being protected from each other otherwise Haney would pursue Tank with a passion if he wanted to fight the 'best'. Who Mayweather claims is the best. Haney dropped Tanks name once or twice. But he's been chirping on Loma for two months and because Loma is focussing on Commey/Teo winner Haney is being a ***** about it.

On another front, why hasn't Teo or Haney called each other out. They chirp about a smaller Loma but avoid the other big punchers. And now that Tank is at 135, that would be an intriguing fight, Teo and Tank. Let those three fight each other and let the winner fight Loma. The big dogs are not fighting.
One out of three could get lucky against Loma. If he fights all three and has that wear and tear and they keep fighting cans. At least Haney appears to want to challenge Tank. Haney should challenge Teo. Not that novice Garcia.

[Christhenatural]

Neither of these guys is a true 135 lb champion but at least Haney was in position to challenge for the title and WBC politics got in the way. It is not lomachenko's fault of what the WBC was pulling, but he did legitimately beat a top 10 highly regarded contender in Luke Campbell to win the WBC belt. Davis, really shouldn't be talking so much because he has been handed belts himself by fighting weak opposition or weight drained past it opponents. Haney and Davis need to fight each other, while Lomachenko is fighting the winner of the Commey/Lopez fight. The Haney and Davis winner can fight the lomachenko vs Commey/Lopez winner.
If boxing can't pull off that simple round robin then it can just go ahead and disappear into the abyss where it will very soon end up.

[Larry the boss]

I literallly think this guy is ******ed

[Califire209]

WBC is not giving the fight fans the fights WE WANT! Real Hardcore boxing fans wanted to see the WBC Champions fight their mandatories..
I wanted to see Canelo vs. Charlo & Lomachenko vs Haney. The so-called true Champions get to ride off into the sunset and the Young Bucks get handed a title