Fight Fixer: "In Boxing Losers Can Make More Money Than Winners"

[A-Wolf]

We know. We see robberies on undercards almost every card.

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[TJ highway]

It's been going on for a long time.

On December 15, 1923, following a match between Frankie Schoell and Dave Shade, referee Dave Miller told reporters he was offered $500 to fix the match in favor of Schoell.

November 17, 1924: Boxers Fred Fulton and Tony Fuente were accused of fixing a fight in Los Angeles, California. The match lasted 35 seconds with Fuente throwing two punches. It was the last match fought under state rules that prohibited boxers from winning cash prizes.

On January 29, 1939, heavyweight boxer Harry Thomas confessed that he participated in two fixed matches. The first was on December 13, 1937 against Max Schmeling in which Thomas lost by technical knockout (TKO) in the eight round. The second fight took place on November 14, 1938 against Tony Galento in which Thomas was defeated by TKO in the third round. Thomas was paid $8,500 for fixing the Schmeling fight and $23,000 for fixing the Galento fight.

In 1947, grand jury proceedings in New York revealed a plot to fix a match between Rocky Graziano and Ruben Shank that was scheduled for December 27, 1946. Graziano called the match off on Christmas Eve saying he had developed a "mild sacroiliac condition".

In 1949, the Michigan Boxing Commission investigated a fight between welterweights Kid Gavilán and Lester Felton, which resulted in a split 2–1 decision for Felton. Gavilán told commission he believed the referee helped Felton fix the match.

Both Muhammad Ali vs. Sonny Liston fights in 1964 and 1965 were suspected of being fixed, but the allegations were never proven.

In 1993, Sports Illustrated reported that several fights arranged by boxing promoter Rick "Elvis" Parker were fixed according to boxer Sonny Barch, who claimed he was approached by Parker and told to lose the fight against Randall "Tex" Cobb scheduled on September 15, 1993. Cobb knocked out Barch in the first-round.

Barch also claimed to have knowledge of another fix which occurred on the same card as his fight between football player turned boxer Mark Gastineau and Rick Hoard. In that match, Gastineau won by a technical knockout in the first round.

Cobb denied the claims and sued Sports Illustrated for libel. He was awarded $10.7 million by a federal jury in 1999. The verdict was reversed on appeal on January 31, 2002

[lieutenant]

Was the point of my last post to debate Canelo's ranking?

You're too ****** to talk to me, boy.

You're a moron. I didn't see anyone in the poll thread state that fights couldn't be fixed. They were stating their case for the Kovalev-Canelo fight not being fixed and presented you with evidence as to why it wasn't.

You rejected them all because you're dead set on believing it was fixed, no amount of evidence to the contrary will change your mind, you're a stubborn fool, only a punch to the face will make you come to your senses.

[A-Wolf]

You're a moron. I didn't see anyone in the poll thread state that fights couldn't be fixed. They were stating their case for the Kovalev-Canelo fight not being fixed and presented you with evidence as to why it wasn't.

You rejected them all because you're dead set on believing it was fixed, no amount of evidence to the contrary will change your mind, you're a stubborn fool, only punch to the face will make you come to your senses.

You've stepped in an obvious trap, sop****re.

Show me examples of this. ZERO people presented or even attempted to present ANY evidence, dumb*****.

But then how could they anyway? "Evidence" that it wasn't a fix? You are beyond ******, my god.

Still, what's even better is you go on to completely INVENT complete falseness about how I fictionally responded after that. For what reason? Why?

[Thuglife Nelo]

You're showing your insecurity. Does this make you feel ******? Listen to what the man says. Hundreds. Thousands of fights are being fixed and sheep like you think nothing is happening.

Very satisfying I have to say.

We know. We see robberies on undercards almost every card.

^^^^^^^^^^

You've stepped in an obvious trap, sop****re.

Show me examples of this. ZERO people presented or even attempted to present ANY evidence, dumb*****.

But then how could they anyway? "Evidence" that it wasn't a fix? You are beyond ******, my god.

Still, what's even better is you go on to completely INVENT complete falseness about how I fictionally responded after that. For what reason? Why?

I think your comprehension of boxing is very immature. First off, you’re agreeing with Robbie about “robberies” yet your angle is the Fight was fixed. You do realize it’s not the same thing. Because of your confusion, you’re not even consistent with your agenda..lol

Of course there are about 10k pro boxers worldwide. Do you know how many startup fights teams and managers invest in to get circulation for higher rankings? This is common practice from the prospect world. The purest from the skill come from the USA, then Russia, Cuba, Kazakh etc...

Look at Gennady’s first pro fight. Look at how that guy moves in the ring. It’s as if he’s not a pro boxer at all, yet he was chosen for a Silver medalist. That guy knew he wasn’t going to beat GGG. Is that’s a “fix” or a “robbery?” Didn’t GGG know he was going to beat that guy? Isn’t it common sense? Does that mean you want to discredit GGG because he knew his first pro fight was a fluke. Look at GGG’s first opponent’s resume today. He made a choice to be a dive boxer, just like flukes in Buck Smith. They exist... it’s not even unheard for classic skilled journeyman like a Luis Collazo to play the part for Haymon.

Kovalev losing still gets him fights and pays on DAZN next. Why would Kovalev take punishment going 12? that makes no sense health wise and for his “optimistic” fights to come on DAZN. He could’ve took a body shot and milked it. Isn’t that the most logical reason to convince fans of a realistic KO when everyone banked in Canelo to win by body shots?

You went out of your way to specifically say Canelo’s combo finish was staged by Kova himself.

You’re either enjoying trying to play ****** or you’re ******!

[A-Wolf]

I think your comprehension of boxing is very immature. First off, you’re agreeing with Robbie about “robberies” yet your angle is the Fight was fixed. You do realize it’s not the same thing. Because of your confusion, you’re not even consistent with your agenda..lol

Of course there are about 10k pro boxers worldwide. Do you know how many startup fights teams and managers invest in to get circulation for higher rankings? This is common practice from the prospect world. The purest from the skill come from the USA, then Russia, Cuba, Kazakh etc...

Look at Gennady’s first pro fight. Look at how that guy moves in the ring. It’s as if he’s not a pro boxer at all, yet he was chosen for a Silver medalist. That guy knew he wasn’t going to beat GGG. Is that’s a “fix” or a “robbery?” Didn’t GGG know he was going to beat that guy? Isn’t it common sense? Does that mean you want to discredit GGG because he knew his first pro fight was a fluke. Look at GGG’s first opponent’s resume today. He made a choice to be a dive boxer, just like flukes in Buck Smith. They exist... it’s not even unheard for classic skilled journeyman like a Luis Collazo to play the part for Haymon.

Kovalev losing still gets him fights and pays on DAZN next. Why would Kovalev take punishment going 12? that makes no sense health wise and for his “optimistic” fights to come on DAZN. He could’ve took a body shot and milked it. Isn’t that the most logical reason to convince fans of a realistic KO when everyone banked in Canelo to win by body shots?

You went out of your way to specifically say Canelo’s combo finish was staged by Kova himself.

You’re either enjoying trying to play ****** or you’re ******!

Look how ****** this fool is.

And then he writes a novel filled with nonsensical meanderings.

Are you in competition with the others for the Special Olympics? No gold medals here. No attention. Nobody cares.

[A-Wolf]

More from the same documentary different sport. Mind boggling stuff here. Turns out the NBA is as controlled and manufactured as CNN and FOX News.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Look how ****** this fool is.

And then he writes a novel filled with nonsensical meanderings.

Are you in competition with the others for the Special Olympics? No gold medals here. No attention. Nobody cares.

I’m pound for pound on these mean streets, son. At least TRY to refute a point. Don’t be scared. Enter the ring

[Thuglife Nelo]

More from the same documentary different sport. Mind boggling stuff here.

Lol. Global Meltdown!

[A-Wolf]

I’m pound for pound on these mean streets, son. At least TRY to refute a point. Don’t be scared. Enter the ring

I understand why Canelo means so much to you. Your self worth is as real as his accomplishments.