Lubinson-Gallimore averaged 198k viewers

[killakali]

No, you can't say the same thing for ESPN or Fox. HBO and Showtime are premium services that cost an additional 10-15 dollars per month. Millions of people that don't have cable order HBO and Showtime separately. Those people aren't counted by Nielsen.

You can't order ESPN or Fox as a standalone service like you can with Showtime. ESPN+ doesn't include the actual ESPN channel or programming. You have to get ESPN through your cable or satellite provider. You have to get Fox through your local affiliate (usually via cable or satellite provider).

What country are you from? Maybe you don't understand how TV works in the US?

Uh oh tard alert. Maybe u aren’t from the US and don’t know how it works.

You mentioned people streaming the showtime card and those numbers not counting in the ratings.

I correctly pointed out it’s the same for ESPN and Fox too. Anyone with half a brain knows people can stream espn and fox just the same as Showtime and it’s not counted in the ratings.

You also have fox deportes and espn deportes not counted in the ratings. Nice try numbnutz

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

You mentioned people streaming the showtime card and those numbers not counting in the ratings.

I correctly pointed out it’s the same for ESPN and Fox too. Anyone with half a brain knows people can stream espn and fox just the same as Showtime and it’s not counted in the ratings.

No, it's not the same. People streaming ESPN and Fox have to get ESPN and Fox through their cable or satellite provider. So the streaming numbers are very low because anybody watching from home is just going to watch on their TV. You can't subscribe separately to ESPN or Fox. You must get them through cable or satellite.

On the other hand, millions of people subscribe to Showtime directly, without cable or satellite. Something ESPN and Fox don't allow. The streaming numbers for Showtime are much higher because they include people watching from home who have no other way to watch other than streaming.

You also have fox deportes and espn deportes not counted in the ratings.

ESPN and Fox combine the English and Spanish broadcasts in their released numbers.

[The Big Dunn]

The crowd was empty as well. I don't think the total tv and live gate crowd exceeded 200k.