WARD was bigger in Kovalev rematch, contradicts himself?

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    WARD was bigger in Kovalev rematch, contradicts himself?

    Ward says his mistake was to bulk up for Kovalev, that he should’ve been just “himself.” However, during training camp in the rematch and in the ring, his neck was more pit bull and his physique was bigger than the first fight...

    Am I missing something? Canelo is the smaller guy than both Ward and Kovalev. Canelo has no choice but to gained some muscle for LHW.

  • lolpz
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    He was more muscular in the first fight, but he looked smaller physically.

    Muscle weighs more then fat. So although he looked leaner, he was carrying more muscle. In the second fight, he looked physically bigger/more filled in, but actually had less muscle on him.

    He was still in tremendous shape nonetheless in both fights. Definitely looked more mobile in the second fight though. I noticed him a bit stiffer in the first.
    Last edited by lolpz; 10-28-2019, 08:29 AM.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #3
      Originally posted by lolpz
      He was more muscular in the first fight, but he looked smaller physically.

      Muscle weighs more then fat. So although he looked leaner, he was carrying more muscle. In the second fight, he looked physically bigger/more filled in, but actually had less muscle on him.

      He was still in tremendous shape nonetheless in both fights. Definitely looked more mobile in the second fight though. I noticed him a bit stiffer in the first.
      I disagree. Ward looked quicker and more evasive in the first fight. Fast just like the Barrera bout. Thing is Ward had acclimated himself by Kovalev 1. In the rematch Ward looked more powerful and more bulldog than the first fight.

      I’m trying to figure out what Ward mean from Alexander Brand to Kovalev regarding this “mistake.” He didn’t say Kovalev 2 had anything to do with his point. I’m more than sure he was referring to the transition to Kovalev 1. As we say in Kovalev 2, power and gain is what made the Krusher respect the power.

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      • M Bison
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        Gotta agree with Ward, Kovalev still a good fight but the guy that Ward fought that's not the same version Canelo is gonna be fighting. If Canelo is gonna be bulking you can bet your ass on him taking EPO, their ain't no level to which this guy won't go.

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        • Monzon99
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          Both Ward Kov fights were suspect. Kov won the first but was robbed by the American establishment. Russians get no favors in America vs an American A side.

          Rematch was suspect because Duva and Kov accepted their purse to be primarily from PPV profits and live gate, they were contracted to a very very small guarantee. Very small. The rematch drew very very poorly and the PPV #s were terrible. They knew this going into fight weekend. SO this put Duva and Kov in a compromised position to have to throw the fight. Which is exactly how it looked.

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            #6
            Originally posted by M Bison
            Gotta agree with Ward, Kovalev still a good fight but the guy that Ward fought that's not the same version Canelo is gonna be fighting. If Canelo is gonna be bulking you can bet your ass on him taking EPO, their ain't no level to which this guy won't go.
            I mean PAC vs Thurman had no VADa testing doe! Can’t make the fight without Pac’s candy!

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            • DuckAdonis
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              #7
              He was on PEDS in the rematch

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              • boliodogs
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                #8
                Of course Canelo has a choice. He said he will weigh 175 but he doesn't have to. Learn boxing history. A boxer can move up to 175 from 160 and not gain weight at all. He has a better chance of winning to fight at his natural fighting weight that he fights best at. Gaining large amounts of muscle through heavy weight lifting is not good for a boxer. This boxing, not body building, wrestling or weight lifting. Too much muscle gained from weight lifting can take the speed and power out of a boxer's punches. SRR weighed only his normal 160 pounds when he fought Maxim for the 175 pound tittle and he was easily beating him until the extremely hot night forced him to quit. Basilo beat Robinson for the 160 pound title at a weight of 153 and Griffith weighed only 150 when he beat Tiger for the middleweight title. The smaller lighter boxer does not have to weigh the same as the bigger boxer to win and they have a better chance of winning if they don't. Putting on too much weight only slows them down and doesn't make them better.

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                • ruedboy
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                  #9
                  Ward was a fighter who always paid attention to what the media was saying about him.
                  He knew that the majority of fans and media felt he lost the first Kovalev fight.
                  Ward always trained as hard as any fighter but for the second fight with Kovalev he trained even harder.
                  He makes a good point about Kovalev not acknowledging his mistakes or learning from experience and he's right about it being a "calculated risk" for Alvarez. But Ward's wrong when he says that saying it's a "calculated risk" doesn't take away from what Canelo is doing. Of course it does, otherwise why say it?

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                  • bballchump11
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                    #10
                    He didn't worry about putting on weight and "let the weight fall to where it's gonna be".

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