Does anybody else find Gennady Golovkin's style to be repulsive and gross?

[aboutfkntime]

you have to understand part of the the problem with golovkin is "perception"....i already know what you guys are going to say "it shouldnt matter blah blah blah".....but reality is HBO built him up big time...and the fans of his went on message boards and called all types of guys "scared" and "chicken"...all while touting him some ATG that beats any ATG.....that stuff happened...i know what you guys will say but im sorry...it matters and its annoying to some boxing fans...especially when the same group of fans will tear down fighters who have accomplished more.......it happens...its here...its on the internet and real life....people built golovkin up to be this indestructible force that was going to plow through everyone.....unrealistic? no doubt....but it happened.....and then people got called out when he stopped knocking guys that were higher level....and they dont like to hear it

i distinctly remember that

about half a dozen TOP fighters got thrown under a bus

unnecessarily, as it turned out... because ALL of them were better than Golovkin

[TonyGe]

i know some people dont know this...but its not an actual crime to not like golovkin.....hes ok....i dont hate the guy..i have some level of respect....but it has alot to do with the way he was branded...and the way his fans talked about him....

there are some valid points here in this thread about him....but golovkin is human and he is who he is

Curt there is nothing wrong with not liking Golovkin's style. It's the level of immaturity and the type of comments directed towards him that get people upset. Calling the guy Borat, disrespecting his country and the general childish comments directed his way speaks volumes about the maturity level of some of his detractors. I noticed it immediately after I joined this board when I was interested in a possible Mayweather Pacquiao match up. It stuck out like a sore thumb.

[Curt Henning]

i distinctly remember that

about half a dozen TOP fighters got thrown under a bus

unnecessarily, as it turned out... because ALL of them were better than Golovkin

the minute things didn't go their way it became "well he got robbed...he got cheated"...or "so what nobody knocks out all top level opponents...canelo didn't"......but yall swore he was different and he was gonna end canelos career right? I mean, cmon, you cant have it both ways...

[New England]

you guys obviously haven't watched boxing for a long time. you'd know two things.

A: golovkin didn't look like this in 2013.
B: fighters age. especially fighters who block punches with their foreheads for a living and who have 350 amateur fights.


"anybody else find a hugely shopworn fighter to look shopworn?! repulsive, says i!"

[TheSlickster]

So you're saying Now he's doing things his way ?
If so then that means he was just following instructions before.

I believe he was to an extent for years to get more recognized. which many fighters do when they're wanting to prove themselves.

[VatoMulatto]

GGG is a violent boxer puncher. He's a hunter who he keeps on coming right at you and he wants to take your head off. He's not the fastest but that constant pressure is so hard to deal with...GGG is fun to watch and he's always in exciting fights.

[Boxing_1013]

Stop it dude. GGG’s own trainer thinks he lost the 2nd fight to Canelo. It’s ok when your favorite fighter loses, happens to all of us. But don’t change facts and live in a fantasy land. It shows weak character.

And even Triple Gay’s diehard fans think he lost to Derevyanchenko. Gay was an above average middleweight in the weakest Middleweight era in history. Nothing more nothing less.

Bro how did you score those 3 fights... And also the Ward-Kov 1st and 2nd fight...and Wilder-Fury.

Anyone saying Canelo really won those fights, or that Ward won the 1st fight with Kov is just a little out there imo.

[TonyGe]

This is a personal opinion. So I'm seeking to find others who had a similar opinion with this thread. So Golovkin fanboys, fan-girls and fanatics alike, who can't take nor handle criticism against your beloved Golovkin, I'd advice you to keep out of this thread.

For a champion boxer and a supposed 'great', I haven't seen many, if any boxer who is as robotic, stiff, uncoordinated, inflexible, rigid and mechanical as Golovkin.

These are the lack of attributes in Golovkin's style that make him totally unbearable to watch. It's like the range of motion of his limbs, are on the level of a stiff bodybuilder without him actually looking like a bodybuilder.

Not sure if he does this purposefully or if his range of motion is really that limited. Whatever the case may be, the evidence of this can be seen from the very first round against Derevyanchenko.

Just compare the fluidity, smoothness and the range of both Golovkin and Derevyanchenko's movement inside the ring. Also check just how much more relaxed and loose Derevyanchenko's body, especially his muscles look, when he moves, compared to Golovkin.

With Golovkin, it seems like he is unable to transition smoothly and fluidly from offense to defense and vice versa in one motion. Or from a neutral position. Nor does it seem like he has the required looseness and flexibility in his limbs to move back and forth perpetually, be it with head movement or when bouncing on his toes for footwork. Every time he does move, whether it's his foot, head, or hands, it appears he is always clenching his muscles tightly and his body always stops abruptly after every move, without being able to continue his movement seamlessly.

In addition, his stiffness and tension of his muscles appear to restrict his range of motion massively. He doesn't appear to get full range of motion on his straight punches like a Wladimir Klitschko or a Sergey Kovalev. This problem, also inhibits his ability to punch from certain angles, such as when slipping and pivoting.

Floyd Mayweather Jr was absolutely correct when he said "Golovkin has no special effects"! Golovkin is as stiff and uncoordinated as they come, for not just a champion boxer, but any athlete at the highest level.

Some may ask: "But how has Golovkin been such a dominant champion for so long with such weaknesses". It's because he's been fighting in quite possibly, the weakest era in middleweight division's history, which also happens to be one of the weakest division by any respectable era's standard. Now that the middleweight division has become a little stronger with more elite-tier boxers with elite skills, Golovkin has been thoroughly exposed as the limited boxer he's always been.

Some may say: "Oh, but Golovkin's old age is causing him to now be in closer fights".

To this, I say how has Golovkin, at an old age, able to stop journeymen like Steve Rolls and Vanes Martirosyan (just like how he has been able to stop similar level of opposition in his young age), but suddenly stopped even coming close to stopping top level opposition like Derevyanchenko, Canelo Alvarez and Daniel Jacobs?

Age is not as much of a factor! If Golovkin also failed to stop journeymen in his old age, then you people will have a point. But Golovkin had those same weaknesses in his young age that I've pointed out he had in his old age against the likes of Derevyanchenko. So being young, wouldn't have made much of a difference against the likes of Daniel Jacobs, Canelo Alvarez and Derevyanchenko. Just like how being old made no difference in his ability to stop journeymen like Rolls and Martirosyan.

Furthermore, there have been other old fighters who have been able to stop elite opponents. It's not like everyone as old as Golovkin failed to stop elite opposition. Golovkin's failures after multiple attempts is a testament to him being a very limited boxer.

Yeah he could be more fluid but it's worked for him. That's his style. People have said similar things about Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano.

Jack Johnson had this to say about Louis

That Joe has a lot to learn," Johnson had said. Louis, he claimed, was a "mechanical fighter" who didn't know how to think in the ring, a "clumsy greenhorn" with an "off-balance stance." And Johnson had continually pointed out the flaw that had proved to be Louis's undoing. "Louis holds his left too low," Johnson had warned before the Schmeling fight, "and the first fellow who makes him step back and then throws a right at his chin will knock him out."

Yeah he was somewhat correct but Louis avenged his loss against Max in devastating fashion. Do not agree with your analysis. He beat Canelo twice. First easily and in the second fight he won by a couple of rounds. The only guy with a legitimate claim to a win over Golovkin is Derevyanchenko. Being young has a huge bearing on your win loss stats. One of my favorite boxers who never gets credit on this forum for his brilliance is Micheal Spinks, one of the very best LH champions of all time, However I don't believe that he would have beat a prime Larry Holmes.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Golovkin is a very rigid and robust fighter in style and movement.

I think the things you are critiquing him on, are because of his innate strengths.

There are not many wasted movements, he is extremely economical within his movements and fighting style.

Most fighters who you deemed as fluid or having great range of motion, are for the most part just wasting movements. Floyd Mayweather was a fluid fighter, he had plenty of athleticism and range of movement 'But as his career progressed he chose to limit displaying these attributes'.

Mayweather would deliberately fight in a controlled, economical fashion. And when he needed to, he would activate his athleticism and fluidity.

Golovkin has not got the athleticism to get out of the way of punches, but he can try his best to block and parry off punches.

I prefer fighters to fight in a controlled, economical, robust fashion.

There is a reason why Tyson Fury, no longer wants to bring back his riddler style. Because it was all over the place, and he no longer wants to put himself through the training in order to bring back the potency of 'The Riddler'.

Golovkin as a fighter has understood what he is good at, and he has maximized those strengths. His strengths I don't think would of allowed him to move up and weight to be competitive.

Carl Froch and Joe Calzaghe, would have both beaten up Golovkin.

[HeadShots]

GGG is 2-0 against Canelo on roids