PSA: Klitschko was older than Ortiz is when he fought Joshua

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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    PSA: Klitschko was older than Ortiz is when he fought Joshua

    I just figured I would point this out to all the people who think AJ is amazing but mock Wilder for “fighting an old man” in Ortiz.
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    Dont compare Klitschko and Ortiz. Klitschko had an amazing career and was world champion for over 10 years. Ortiz has never beaten anyone ever. Travis Kauffman...Enough said.

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      Ortiz would have beaten Klitschko towards the end of Klitschko’s career.

      Originally posted by redmish
      Dont compare Klitschko and Ortiz. Klitschko had an amazing career and was world champion for over 10 years. Ortiz has never beaten anyone ever. Travis Kauffman...Enough said.

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        Originally posted by redmish
        Dont compare Klitschko and Ortiz. Klitschko had an amazing career and was world champion for over 10 years. Ortiz has never beaten anyone ever. Travis Kauffman...Enough said.
        Them Tyson's laurels not Joshua's

        He hadn't been that Wlad for like two years.


        Also, no he didn't. That decade you mentioned is the only thing worth mentioning in Wlad's career. He has no resume to speak of, no performance to site, no technique worth film study, nothing to speak to his greatness outside of his ten year reign.

        Ten years, yes, impressive, don't use it to allude to **** that never happened. Amazing career my ass.

        He has no performances because he fought safe even against bums like Mormeck.

        He has no resume because he refused to make a voluntary defense.

        He has no technique worth film study because under Manny, when he was winning, Manny openly kept him on amatuer techniques.

        So, what was so amazing about his career outside of the decade run? His ability to son CWs like Haye or his ability to punk no hopers like Pulev? Sam Peter = Mike Tyson or some such?

        No sir, I'll not allow that ****. It is an affront to men who really did have amazing careers. Lennox, Evander, Tyson, Luis, Walcott, Charles, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Marciano, Jeffries, Johnson, Fitzs, boy-oh we've had some amazing runs. Wlad ain't one. His decade is, his body or work isn't. Not even close.

        Don't give me that **** about no one to fight. Marciano had no one to fight either. He made the Suzie Q out of it. Wlad just coasted.

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          #5
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
          Ortiz would have beaten Klitschko towards the end of Klitschko’s career.
          How can you say that? Ortiz hasn't beaten anyone of note and his career best performance was a KO loss. Hes a good fighter but he is very overrated on here.

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            Bryant Jennings gave Klitschko a good fight and lasted the distance. He was praised for his effort and recognized as the best heavyweight in America before and after the Klitschko fight.

            Luis Ortiz knocked Jennings out in six rounds and made him cry.

            Originally posted by redmish
            How can you say that? Ortiz hasn't beaten anyone of note and his career best performance was a KO loss. Hes a good fighter but he is very overrated on here.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Marchegiano
              Them Tyson's laurels not Joshua's

              He hadn't been that Wlad for like two years.


              Also, no he didn't. That decade you mentioned is the only thing worth mentioning in Wlad's career. He has no resume to speak of, no performance to site, no technique worth film study, nothing to speak to his greatness outside of his ten year reign.

              Ten years, yes, impressive, don't use it to allude to **** that never happened. Amazing career my ass.

              He has no performances because he fought safe even against bums like Mormeck.

              He has no resume because he refused to make a voluntary defense.

              He has no technique worth film study because under Manny, when he was winning, Manny openly kept him on amatuer techniques.

              So, what was so amazing about his career outside of the decade run? His ability to son CWs like Haye or his ability to punk no hopers like Pulev? Sam Peter = Mike Tyson or some such?

              No sir, I'll not allow that ****. It is an affront to men who really did have amazing careers. Lennox, Evander, Tyson, Luis, Walcott, Charles, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Marciano, Jeffries, Johnson, Fitzs, boy-oh we've had some amazing runs. Wlad ain't one. His decade is, his body or work isn't. Not even close.

              Don't give me that **** about no one to fight. Marciano had no one to fight either. He made the Suzie Q out of it. Wlad just coasted.
              What was so amazing outside his decade long run? Did you really ask that? Tell me what was so amazing about Tysons career? He lost every major fight he ever had and his best win was against a LHW. We'll never agree so let's leave it there.

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                All jokes aside, was he really though? Ortiz is definitely not as young as he says he is...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by redmish
                  What was so amazing outside his decade long run? Did you really ask that? Tell me what was so amazing about Tysons career? He lost every major fight he ever had and his best win was against a LHW. We'll never agree so let's leave it there.
                  his knockout reel son

                  The **** you got for me other then shutting the **** up and trying to pivot the point?

                  A performance? Nah, didn't even try.

                  A resume? Nope, let's dog Tyson's instead.

                  Some technique I should take a closer look at? Best to not go there eh?


                  Tyson has performances. Wlad does not.

                  Tyson was undisputed. Wlad was not.

                  Tyson doesn't need a resume to son Wlad, Wlad doesn't have one himself.


                  10 year reign and not a single KO to put against Mike's work.

                  10 year reign and not a single technique to put against Mike's peek-a-boo

                  Oh but we is gonna act like Povetkin = Tubbs?

                  An old Holmes is better than anything Wlad ever did, but, let's be clear, Mike doesn't need resume to outclass Wlad on having had an amazing career.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                    I just figured I would point this out to all the people who think AJ is amazing but mock Wilder for “fighting an old man” in Ortiz.
                    Fair point...

                    Ortiz also isn’t coming off 18 months of inactivity.

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