Originally posted by Pigeons
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Are people who think Loma is the best active boxer automatically white nationalists?
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Boxing is very race related. It’s not like a team. You’re going to root for who ever you can relate to the most. If that’s color, there’s nothing wrong with that. We do that naturally.
What is unnatural is the racism, race baiting, prejudice and targeting a group of people due to their race/background.
My first favorite fighters were Julio Cesar Chavez and De La Hoya in the 90s. I related to them. Whitish skin color, “good” hair, Latino, and spoke Spanish. Their features were like mine. I also liked Tyson, Holyfield, Trinidad, Lewis even though their appearance were black. They were not my favorites but I liked them. Then Roy Jones and Jermain Taylor became faves, Hopkins did too. I liked Joe Calzaghe when I learned of him in 2005, he also became a favorite.
Then I remembered how it was posting in this environment. It was pretty bad, a lot of racism. Boxingscene posters were all about colors. People thought I was black because I liked Mayweather. Got racist red k messages. As a 17 year old kid, I had not been exposed to such racism yet. In NYC there’s all kinds of people. So colors was nothing to me. But holy sht was it bad here. It really opened my eyes to how prejudice white people are if given anonymity. It’s not something I ever encounter in person, ever. Not even in a red state like Ohio. This is strictly an anonymous thing. Give them a mask and comfort of them knowing they will not be exposed and they will show you who they really are.
Boxingscene is still the same as it was when I joined, as far as the people who post here. It is more moderated though.
Nothing wrong with a white boxing fan liking Lomachenko because he’s a good white boxer and you have closely matched physical features. That’s NATURAL, and it’s okay, you’re not racist because if this. It’s wrong to not like Wilder, or Spence, or Crawford because they’re black, and hate their fans because they’re black, or because you assume they’re black. That’s racist.
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na·tion·al·ist
/ˈnaSH(ə)nələst/
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a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
Yes, all of those white nationalist Americans are cheering for a European born in Communist Ukraine.
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But thats America for you. Its just inherently racist, and that goes for all colours and creeds. America us just a very racist country that trys to act like the most diverse.
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Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Postna·tion·al·ist
/ˈnaSH(ə)nələst/
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noun
a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
Yes, all of those white nationalist Americans are cheering for a European born in Communist Ukraine.
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Its not a colour thing its a country thing. White, black, what ever, the vast majority of hate for Loma is coming out of America, most the hate for most none American Boxers comes from Americans. In general Americans are just strange and feel to be pro anything you have to be anti the other thing.
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Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View PostYou can root for your color, but in moderation, always. Balance is key. Don't disrespect others is rule #1.
If a white guy roots for a fighter because they're white, thats racism, same for any other race.
If you support for a fighter because they're from your country against another country's fighter, that is xenophobia.
At least understand and admit it, if you tick those boxes you're a racism or xenophobe.
If you support some (and by definition prejudice others) because of factors neither you or they have any control over, instead of individual characteristics like skill, toughness, resolve or bravery you need to take a good long look in the mirror. Maybe give yourself an uppercut while you're there.
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All I know is HBO went under chasing after the next European star. They put everything into Triple G and Kovalev and once they lost HBO struggled. Now ESPN had Crawford a top 3 fighter who just needed to be promoted. Instead they go get Fury who cant and Loma who don't sell tickets either. So they do keep trying to prop these European fighters.
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