BoxingScene Champions: Pound for Pound

[Rusty Tromboni]

BTW I voted for Bud.
I know he doesn't have a huge resume but in the fights he has had he's never looked out of his depth, he's a 3 divisional champ and unified at 140.

lol, he's only just now fighting guys his own size.

and he hasn't even proven himself his division's king.

Loma is clearly chopping down dudes twice his size.

And Crawford doesn't have a performance that comes anything close to Loma's shutdown of Rigo. That was one of the best performances ever.

if they were the same size Loma would mow Crawford down mid-fight.... assuming Crawford hadn't quit on the stool first.

Just watch their fights. It's pretty clear the disparity in talent.

[BLASTER1]

lol, he's only just now fighting guys his own size.

and he hasn't even proven himself his division's king.

Loma is clearly chopping down dudes twice his size.

And Crawford doesn't have a performance that comes anything close to Loma's shutdown of Rigo. That was one of the best performances ever.

if they were the same size Loma would mow Crawford down mid-fight.... assuming Crawford hadn't quit on the stool first.

Just watch their fights. It's pretty clear the disparity in talent.

I've definitely watched both guys fight and they are two of my favourite boxers but they have completely different styles.
It's hard to say one is more effective than the other because both are dominating.
I love Lomas skills but he's not as good as a counter puncher than Bud plus I love Buds speed and power but his angles aren't the same as Lomas.
They are both great.

[Rusty Tromboni]

I've definitely watched both guys fight and they are two of my favourite boxers but they have completely different styles.
It's hard to say one is more effective than the other because both are dominating.
I love Lomas skills but he's not as good as a counter puncher than Bud plus I love Buds speed and power but his angles aren't the same as Lomas.
They are both great.

Crawford has a more porous defense.

Lomachenko is mowing down larger men. He is more versatile, and has more effective offense. Crawford having more one punch power (does he?) really doesn't mean much. Foreman was terrifying puncher, Ali wasn't. Jackson and Mugabi were terrifying punchers McCallum andHager weren't. I could go on and on.

When Crawford starts KO'ing Middleweights, then we can talk about him in the same breath as Lomachenko.

[Marchegiano]

I didn't see p4p when I first voted in the list.
Maybe it's because it's just been added and people don't know about it yet.

I thought I'd responded already, my bad.

Right ya're, I didn't notice it wasn't included in the floating links on all threads. Thanks for pointing that out bud, appreciate it and your input.

[Marchegiano]

It's absurd that Usyk, Fury and even Wilder aren't options.

I'm not asking on this one. Better bring a historian in on this one because I won't budge until someone shows me I have mistaken the history.

P4P is like lineal, means whatever the **** the next guy says it means because its traditional meaning is totally lost to most boxing observers, including the ones who call themselves experts.

The day they started adding HWs to p4p was the day p4p lost all meaning and became whatever the **** Ring told you it is.

This is not a secondary outlet for Ring, period and end of, no. I don't care how many have followed Ring's lead. I don't care that you see lists everywhere else. I don't care if you are used to seeing HWs on a p4p list.

This is a pole for the p4p champion. HW has no place. Number 2 has no place. There is only one p4p champion and that man is the man you believe would take out the HWs if weight was not an issue.

Accolades, performances, resumes, fine reasons to vote, but don't get it twisted, p4p is not a celebration of accolades and awards. It is a celebration of skills over size. Period.


Y'all prove to me HW came into p4p for any reason other than promotion from a promotional magazine that hands out promotional belts and I'll change the poll around. Until then, don't give a **** what the consensus is for some made up Ring bull****.


I voted Pac because a HW Pac or WW Wilder, Andy, or Fury is unfair for Pac, he'd stomp their asses. Period, don't need a list of what his legendary career has gathered for him. Just my opinion he'd **** up the HWs.


Usyk is the only one I even considered, but, I reckon since he stepped to HW he took himself out of the race.