Teddy Atlas is overrated

[NUCLEAR]

teddy is cool. its just some of the things he says are cringey like those fireman speech.

[johnbook]

Ask Donny Lalonde.

[DaNeutral.]

The guy always think he is in a Rocky movie he wasn't giving any clear instructions just some motivational talk he probably rehearse for the TV camera

Dude should just stick with commentary and podcast imo

Ofcourse he is Fannon, only PBC guys are not overrated these days according to you shills. I have no doubts that should Atlas somehow end up playing with the PBC then you would demonstrate a complete turn around. We know your game.

[Scopedog]

I think Atlas is a master when it comes to memorable quotes and turns of phrase, and that extends to his ability as a motivator too. If a fighter just needs that little extra emotional push to win a close battle then I don't think there's anybody else he'd rather have in his corner. That said, I think that's where my appreciation for him ends. He talks so much nonsense as an analyst that I can't imagine taking him seriously as a boxing tactician or trainer.

[Southpawology]

... man, tell me just who (since 2014) wanted "to be there", in front of Beterbiev?...

Nobodyyy lol. But beterbievs previous opponents werent near the level of gvozdyk thats why i was so surprised to see him fold up like that.

[Rip Chudd]

Teddy was giving good advice. Gvozdyk simply did not want to be there, he mentally checked out.

This^^^^^

I don't know what some people are talking about. Told him to keep moving to his right to stay away from Beterbiev's right hand, told him to stick the jab out there from further out cause he was letting Beterbiev get in too close to counter over his jab

[MDPopescu]

... man, tell me just who (since 2014) wanted "to be there", in front of Beterbiev?...

Nobodyyy lol. But beterbievs previous opponents werent near the level of gvozdyk thats why i was so surprised to see him fold up like that.

I'm afraid I have to rephrase this... as long as Kovalev offered him a fight in Russia...

[ShoulderRoll]

I've never cared much for his psychological/motivational theatrics, but the technical instructions that Teddy Atlas was giving Gvozdyk seemed on point to me.

[HarvardBlue]

I rewatched the fight a couple times. Beterbiev is a beast but Gvozdyk was underprepared. When he traded artilery with Beterbiev he actually did well. His right hand was longer and sharper and Beterbiev left himself open. But Gvozdyk kept jabbing inaccurately and getting countered, and kept throwing prerehearsed combinations at random times. He didn't know what punch to throw at what time. And he didn't bend his legs enough to get under Beterbiev's neck control.

In talent these are two equal boxers, but had a clear plan of what he needed to do to win in different situations in the fight, Gvozdyk did not. It's 20/20 hindsight but with the way Gvozdyk's chin held up so well, he should have taken the fight to Beterbiev and pushed him back all night. Would have made for a much better fight too. He fought apprehensively. Maybe Teddy built up the power too much in his mind. "You can't make a single mistake!" That turned out to be bull****. Had he pressed the issue and kept the right hand coming at full force all night, he would have won.

The reason he didn't take the fight to Beterbiev is because he was getting hit with thudding punches. Once he felt how hard Beterbiev hit he fought a lot more cautious. As much as Gvozdyk was moving, Beterbiev was able to get to him fairly easy. The body shots also did alot of damage. Gvozdyk was done in the 5th but he he tried to push until he couldn't go any more. I don't see what Gvozdyk could have done differently.

[boliodogs]

The guy always think he is in a Rocky movie he wasn't giving any clear instructions just some motivational talk he probably rehearse for the TV camera

Dude should just stick with commentary and podcast imo

He is not overrated by me. I never thought much of him or even liked the guy. His word is not worth a damn. When Pac lost the fight to Bradley Atlas said Pac won by a mile and was robbed. Then when he becomes Bradley's trainer he says Bradley won that first fight and deserved the win. He should be loyal to his boxer but he should not flat out lie for him like that. I hated listening to him call fights because he never stopped talking and ruined my enjoymnt of the fight. He always trashed the boxers in the ring no matter how good they were. As a trainer he is not very good either.