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I feel like Bivol has more of a mental edge than Gvozdyk and we saw the Ukrainian tag Beterbiev numerous times. I think Bivol throwing measured volume down the pipe can see him contain and inhibit Beterbiev. Great fight though, would love to see it!
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Beterbiev Vs Bivol could well be FOTY & if put on in Russia makes a massive payday for both boxers. I just hope Bob the Yid don't screw it up!Comment
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Lets f***ing go!!!!Comment
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Beterbiev might be the best pressure puncher of all time, he just never got the chance to prove it until saturday. The only boxers in the history of the sport who can take Beterbiev's punches are the ones who don't get hit with many of them, or knock him out before they can get hit by many of them.
Name your favorite LHWs of all time, Beterbiev probably knocks them out. He's Khabib and GGG in one and he hits harder than either. I won't say he's more skilled than GGG but he has better "craft," he doesn't reset, he goes from position to position much better, like an elite grappler in MMA does. Whoever trained him did a masterful job.Comment
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Great matchup, Bivol is the better boxer but he would need to sit-down on his shots to deter Beterbiev.
If he fights like he has been recently then I think Beterbiev would break him down and ko him.
I'm a fan of both fighters but with Bivol I get a sense he has problems with his punch resistance and I think that's why he has been fighting so defensively as of late. Beterbiev aside from getting dropped briefly by a heavy handed Johnson has for the most part looked very solidComment
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Bivol will get hit less than Gvozdyk at mid and long range, but I can see him getting outmuscled inside even worse than Gvozdyk did, and I'm not sure he can absorb half the body punches and headshots that Gvozdyk did.
Someone in this thread is calling Gvozdyk soft to the body, but he might look like Hercules after Beterbiev fights the smaller Bivol.
We shall see though. It's one of the best fights in boxing. Has to happen in 2020.Comment
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Yeah Bivol is going to get at least semi-hurt by every punch Beterbiev lands, and Beterbiev throws and lands more hard punches than anyone in the sport. You can hardly find a harder matchup for Bivol, specifically, in any division in all of boxing. If Bivol beats Beterbiev he really will have an argument for P4P king, even though I dont think hes a better boxer, talent wise, than Loma or Usyk, because he will have beaten the #1 most difficult guy for him to beat in the entire sport, who just so happens to be in his division. In contrast you find guys Bivol's size, top technical fighters who aren't rough dirty or huge punchers, Bivol schools all of them but the two guys I named easily. But Beterbiev aint that.
And Beterbiev talent wise, regardless of style, is a P4P top fighter, make no mistake, in all of boxing. He does *****ing everything. He even showed great head movement vs Gvozdyk when he felt like it. Everything.
Back to breaking down the fight. Bivol is going to get hurt with everything. It's going to be a much, much higher level version of Maidana vs Khan, for a broad comparison. Bivol is going to have to show guts, toughness, poise under fire, and survival skills I'm not sure he has, to survive one round at a time and win on points. The problem is Bivol is one of the cleanest fighters in the game, pure outside boxing, no dirty tricks. Beterbiev is like a better Andre Ward, minus the low blows, but with the rest of the roughness. Is Bivol's amateur boxing trainer, a pure technician trainer, really going to have him prepared for Beterbiev, I doubt it.
When the talent is this elite on both sides, and it's a style clash, I'm starting to think it's really the trainer and the camp that decides the fight more than anything. I think we saw that vs Gvozdyk, he actually did have the firepower to ***** Beterbiev up if he landed the right shots and landed with volume, threw more right hands than he did, but he either wasn't prepared to counter what Beterbiev was doing or he didn't execute.
I see Bivol getting manhandled in the clinch if he doesn't come prepared. He needs to work with professional grapplers for that fight not just boxers. The grappling will be what does him in.Comment
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arum got other ideasComment
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... In fact he only said: "Of course, there is a desire to fight [Beterbiev]"...
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Beterbiev will be the favorite and rightfully so!
He just demolished the second best arguably the best at 175 and took the firepower like an open armed hug!
I don’t think Bivol hits as hard as Gvozdyk possibly not even harder than Callum Johnson!
He’s more athletic than Gvozdyk and faster an has more variety to his offense but he doesn’t dictate distance better, doesn’t try to insert his will, and not as strong!
Bivol would have to get stronger and hurt Beterbiev with a shot he doesn’t see and fight a perfect fight!
Would be tense just like Beterbiev vs Gvozdyk was!Comment
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