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  • Vodkaholic
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    #71
    Why is ward rated so highly? He's a really good (and dirty) fighter but not some unbeatable atg

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    • mathed
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      #72
      Ahahahaha, Beterbiev would have broken coWard in half, retired him in the ring easily.

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      • Boxingwizard
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        #73
        Originally posted by Vodkaholic
        Why is ward rated so highly? He's a really good (and dirty) fighter but not some unbeatable atg
        True, but you also have to take into consideration that Ward was rusty as hell when he first fought Kovalev. The lawsuit against Goosen really hurt him, I bet he regrets doing that. He looked like complete sh!* against Barrerra, he barley won that fight.

        By the second fight against Kovalev he was really hurting Kovalev, he fought a lot better compared to the first fight.

        I think he beats both Beterbiev and Gvozdyk, had Ward stayed active and was able to shake the ring rust off. He should have fought Stevenson when he had the opportunity given what Gvozdyk did to him. Ward is definitely a better boxer than Gvozdyk.
        Last edited by Boxingwizard; 10-20-2019, 10:50 PM.

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          #74
          Originally posted by mathed
          Ahahahaha, Beterbiev would have broken coWard in half, retired him in the ring easily.
          He didn’t fight him but he literally retired him
          When he was Ward’s mando , SOG decided it was better to retire

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            #75
            Originally posted by MulaKO
            He didn’t fight him but he literally retired him
            When he was Ward’s mando , SOG decided it was better to retire
            His promoter and HBO wanted him to fight Stevenson. But Ward wanted to fight a lesser opponent. I think Stevenson would have given Ward a lot of trouble, I think that's what pushed him to retirement. Also there was demand for a 3rd fight with Kovalev given how the 2nd fight ended, and I don't know if Ward wanted to take another 12 rounds of getting punched by Kovalev. I think Ward realized there was too many heavy hitters in the LHW divsion, I think he was worried about his health.
            Last edited by Boxingwizard; 10-20-2019, 10:17 PM.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Boxingwizard
              His promoter and HBO wanted him to fight Stevenson. But Ward wanted to fight a lesser opponent. I think Stevenson would have given Ward a lot of trouble, I think that's what pushed him to retirement. Also there was demand for a 3rd fight with Kovalev given how the 2nd fight ended, and I don't know if Ward wanted to take another 12 rounds of getting punched by Kovalev. I think Ward realized there was too many heavy hitters in the LHW divsion, I think he was worried about his health.
              I got nothing against Ward , I think he’s a great boxer maybe fughin dirty but tend to the idea that his opponent must react dirty and that’ll stop it
              Sorry getting off topic
              But Ward decided to retire when Beterbiev was his mando

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              • TheCell8
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                #77
                Beterbiev is too big and strong. Is he capable of getting outboxed? Possibly. But try keeping him off for 12 rounds, those punches he lands add up quickly.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by MulaKO
                  I got nothing against Ward , I think he’s a great boxer maybe fughin dirty but tend to the idea that his opponent must react dirty and that’ll stop it
                  Sorry getting off topic
                  But Ward decided to retire when Beterbiev was his mando
                  I heard HBO was trying to make him fight Stevenson, but Ward wanted to fight a much weaker opponent, and instead of fighting Stevenson Ward retired.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Boxfan83
                    Jones and Ray Leonard were more than just handspeed. They were not Amir Khan. With their reflex, if u take away their handspeed theyd be some great counter punchers. Take away pernells reflex, u likely get a Gamboa.

                    Take away Beterbiev power u get a walking heavy bag, straight up and down.
                    So you’re saying that George Foreman, Sonny Liston, and Mike Tyson would just be walking punching bags too if they didn’t have power?

                    Stop pretending that power is the only thing Beterbiev has going for him.
                    Last edited by Flo_Raiden; 10-20-2019, 11:07 PM.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Boxingwizard
                      I heard HBO was trying to make him fight Stevenson, but Ward wanted to fight a much weaker opponent, and instead of fighting Stevenson Ward retired.
                      Nope , it was the Chechen Wolf
                      Ward would of taken the fight with Stevenson

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