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    #11
    Originally posted by alexguiness
    Haye talks a lot, but as usual it is 99% BS.

    Not giving Fury credit for totally outclassing Wilder, and basically saying Wilder is a boxer who can make adjustments is simply ridiculous.

    He acts like a female over stuff like this.
    I thought Haye was quite reasonable, he spoke sense in this article and didn't pick a side. Haye's one of the good guys in boxing, he could easily be a foul-mouthed bitter man after all the ****** trash that Fury spoke about him (which turned out to be hypocritical nonsense given Fury was fuccing over Wlad by pulling out twice...though unlike Haye who was actually injured Fury couldn't fight because he took too many drugs and partied too hard)

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    • Plick647
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      #12
      Wilder did one thing wrong; he had the wrong game plan. he went in looking for the KO from the start. he admitted this was his mistake.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Plick647
        Wilder did one thing wrong; he had the wrong game plan. he went in looking for the KO from the start. he admitted this was his mistake.
        That was Wilder biggest error in that fight, he went in from the start swinging/trying to take Fury's head off. And then he didn't listen to Mark in between the rounds.

        For me he doesn't beat Fury in this rematch, he fights with too much emotions, and you cannot do that against Fury. Fury is much more fitter now and the dangerous you are to Fury the more he is cautions, especially now that he has felt Wilder's power and knows its real.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Gamboal00
          The problem with your assessment is that it wasn't as skilled a performance by Fury as the media try to make out.

          He had hardly no offensive game that fight and got knocked down twice.

          Also, you say 'wins even more clearly'. Fury did not win the first fight, I don't care what anyone says, no way. I've watched it 4 times (1 time with the sound off) and it's a draw or 1 round win for Wilder because of Fury barely doing anything the first 4 rounds with Wilder chasing him and throwing punches and of course the two 10-8 rounds for Wilder.
          Saying that Wilder won the fight makes you look like a moron and clearly shows you know nothing about boxing.

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            #15
            Wilder won't win a round in the rematch.

            Wilder fans can spin it however they want, most of the boxing world thought Fury won. Fury is now fitter, more active and far sharper than he was in the first fight. That bum Wilder isn't going to suddenly learn how to box.

            Fury via shut out.

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              #16
              Wilder never has a game plan. Doubt he has the ability to implement one either, Hes technically garbage, but he comes in fit, well conditioned and expects to land his monstrous right hand at some point and put you to sleep.

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                #17
                i think hes gonna be around for a long time, moreso than the others. if he had a better defense, and stopped the windmill insanity, he could end up an ATG!?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Plick647
                  i think hes gonna be around for a long time, moreso than the others. if he had a better defense, and stopped the windmill insanity, he could end up an ATG!?
                  Yeah, an ATG for losing to Fury and nearly getting stopped by a 50yr old asthma sufferer.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by denium
                    Fury is now fitter, more active and far sharper than he was in the first fight. That bum Wilder isn't going to suddenly learn how to box.

                    Fury via shut out.
                    Bwahaha. Yeh, he looked great getting beaten up vs Wallin.

                    Far from looking fitter, he looked even weaker and even more grandad-shaped.

                    And yes, 100%, Wilder did not lose the first fight. 2 knockdowns and Fury barely throwing a punch and running the whole fight means Wilder edged it, I think the one judge was too generous to Wilder by giving him 4-5 rounds, but he definitely did not lose.

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                      #20
                      Oh boy-o, the whole time leading up to their fight we're going to have to read all about how super talented Fury is, despite having not looked good since 2015, and how lucky Wilder is, despite Fury being dropped twice.

                      This idea that power punchers have no skills, low skills, less talent, less ability, is ****ing dumb. I realize y'all heard "a good boxer beats a good puncher" repeated yer whole lives, but, who's the retired undefeated HW champion? Not a ****in' boxer right? Plenty of weak eras, plenty of boxers, one unbeaten champion ever, Duuuuh, duh, duh, duh, dumb.

                      Fury is massively talented and excellent at his craft. So if Deontay Wilder, that's why Fury got dropped twice. Fury's basic MO is a loser's gameplan doomed to catch an L. Wilder's form has never lost in the history of gloved boxing.

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