Where Would Wilders record Be without Ortiz on it ?

[REDEEMER]

would be 40-0-1

This kid goes on threads that he has people on ignore. Ha

[CoachMac34]

This thread could go in a million different directions. Why did you single out Wilder? How would Fury's resume look without Vlad? Same with AJ. Neither of these guys have killer resumes, let's be honest. Team AJ hasn't faced the other two, yet. And now, we have to add Ruiz to the discussion. Povetkin, Miller, and Whyte have blown opportunities to help clear things up a bit. Right now, I'd rank them (1) Wilder (1) Fury , Ruiz and Joshua.

[Boxing_1013]

It's pure trash with or without Ortiz, Ortiz is a manufactured PBC hypejob. Ortiz is ancient, has done nothing, beaten nobody and never achieved anything, he looked dreadful in his last couple fights.

Certain trolls try to tell us that he was a great amateur, but if you really know Ortiz amateur background, he is best known for losing to Odlanier Solis 5 times in a row.

All those Cubans can box though man lol

[Boxing_1013]

This thread could go in a million different directions. Why did you single out Wilder? How would Fury's resume look without Vlad? Same with AJ. Neither of these guys have killer resumes, let's be honest.

I was going to respond but this basically sums up my views.

Take away a top opponent or two for anybody and their resume will start to look bare probably