Comments Thread For: Wilder To Fury: You Are No Champion, Cut That Bull**** Out!

[MC Hammer]

well if you google it you will realize that the ring magazine belt is one of the oldest belts and its not a made up belt like Wilder complains about. there are also pictures of the belt.

Full list of Heavyweight Lineage: • John L. Sullivan (1885–1892) • James J. Corbett (1892–1897) • Bob Fitzsimmons (1897–1899) • James J. Jeffries (1899–1905; retired) • Marvin Hart (1905–1906) • Tommy Burns (1906–1908) • Jack Johnson (1908–1915) • Jess Willard (1915–1919) • Jack Dempsey (1919–1926) • Gene Tunney (1926–1928; retired) • Max Schmeling (1930–1932) • Jack Sharkey (1932–1933) • Primo Carnera (1933–1934) • Max Baer (1934–1935) • James J. Braddock (1935–1937) • Joe Louis (1937–1949; retired) • Ezzard Charles (1949–1951) • Jersey Joe Walcott (1951–1952) • Rocky Marciano (1952–1956; retired) • Floyd Patterson (1956–1959) • Ingemar Johansson (1959–1960) • Floyd Patterson (1960–1962) • Sonny Liston (1962–1964) • Cassius Clay / Muhammad Ali (1964–1970; suspended) • Joe Frazier (1970–1973) • George Foreman (1973–1974) • Muhammad Ali (1974–1978) • Leon Spinks (1978) • Muhammad Ali (1978–1979; retired) • Larry Holmes (1980–1985) • Michael Spinks (1985–1988) • Mike Tyson (1988–1990) • Buster Douglas (1990) • Evander Holyfield (1990–1992) • Rid**** Bowe (1992–1993) • Evander Holyfield (1993–1994) • Michael Moorer (1994) • George Foreman (1994–1997) • Shannon Briggs (1997–1998) • Lennox Lewis (1998–2001) • Hasim Rahman (2001) • Lennox Lewis (2001–2004; retired) • Wladimir Klitschko (2009–2015) • Tyson Fury (2015 – today)

So Fury's lineal status goes all the way back to Klitchko? Lmao

[Yaconcha]

I don't recall Wilder losing to Fury. The "Official" decision from the "Official" judges was that the fight ended in a draw. Their decision is all that really counts. If I had been a judge I would (all things considered, including knockdowns) have given the decision to Wilder. After all Fury only landed an average of one punch per round more than Wilder. Also the only excitement in the fight was generated by the aggression of Wilder.

i couldn’t agree more, ignore that “denium” fool, he or she knows fack all unless it’s about fast food or ugly couch spuds.

[LoadedWraps]

I don't recall Wilder losing to Fury. The "Official" decision from the "Official" judges was that the fight ended in a draw. Their decision is all that really counts. If I had been a judge I would (all things considered, including knockdowns) have given the decision to Wilder. After all Fury only landed an average of one punch per round more than Wilder. Also the only excitement in the fight was generated by the aggression of Wilder.

Objectively scoring the fight for Wilder tells us you don't know boxing from badminton.

[LoadedWraps]

well if you google it you will realize that the ring magazine belt is one of the oldest belts and its not a made up belt like Wilder complains about. there are also pictures of the belt.

Full list of Heavyweight Lineage: • John L. Sullivan (1885–1892) • James J. Corbett (1892–1897) • Bob Fitzsimmons (1897–1899) • James J. Jeffries (1899–1905; retired) • Marvin Hart (1905–1906) • Tommy Burns (1906–1908) • Jack Johnson (1908–1915) • Jess Willard (1915–1919) • Jack Dempsey (1919–1926) • Gene Tunney (1926–1928; retired) • Max Schmeling (1930–1932) • Jack Sharkey (1932–1933) • Primo Carnera (1933–1934) • Max Baer (1934–1935) • James J. Braddock (1935–1937) • Joe Louis (1937–1949; retired) • Ezzard Charles (1949–1951) • Jersey Joe Walcott (1951–1952) • Rocky Marciano (1952–1956; retired) • Floyd Patterson (1956–1959) • Ingemar Johansson (1959–1960) • Floyd Patterson (1960–1962) • Sonny Liston (1962–1964) • Cassius Clay / Muhammad Ali (1964–1970; suspended) • Joe Frazier (1970–1973) • George Foreman (1973–1974) • Muhammad Ali (1974–1978) • Leon Spinks (1978) • Muhammad Ali (1978–1979; retired) • Larry Holmes (1980–1985) • Michael Spinks (1985–1988) • Mike Tyson (1988–1990) • Buster Douglas (1990) • Evander Holyfield (1990–1992) • Rid**** Bowe (1992–1993) • Evander Holyfield (1993–1994) • Michael Moorer (1994) • George Foreman (1994–1997) • Shannon Briggs (1997–1998) • Lennox Lewis (1998–2001) • Hasim Rahman (2001) • Lennox Lewis (2001–2004; retired) • Wladimir Klitschko (2009–2015) • Tyson Fury (2015 – today)

Most savage post I've seen in a long time. Bombarding you with green K.

[hugh grant]

I thought wilder and fury were good friends?. Why is wilder dissing fury fury? Wilder shared 12 rounds with fury is he not scared of fury after experiencing the talent?

[removed]

i couldn’t agree more, ignore that “denium” fool, he or she knows fack all unless it’s about fast food or ugly couch spuds.

The only ugly person around here is your mum.

[rickJen]

Wilder To Fury: You Are No Champion...


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He's no champion yet you clown keep fighting him
as if he's the only top guy in the heavyweight division.
Fight the ones that are calling you out.

[Marchegiano]

Of course there isn’t a belt you moron. A lineal champion is a notional title referring to the man who beat the man etc. It’s quite simple to understand if your IQ is >50!!

Probably advisable for Wilder to keep quiet, considering that he was completely outboxed and bamboozled by Fury for every second of every round barring the two knockdowns. Even the Americans in the arena booed the decision. The worst boxing robbery in my lifetime & I’ve been following the sport since the mid 1970s.

There used to be a belt. How do you think John L - Tommy Burns had belts?

The fans are meant to commission the belt themselves.


One could very much argue the lack of a physical title equates to a lack of fan support and without fan support there is no lineal.


Just a tidbit, not really anything to hang your hat on, but, it is curious isn't it? Claiming to have a title that goes back to Sullivan without having a single tradition that goes back to Sullivan to back the claim outside the tradition of claiming in the first place.


On the flipside, many,many lineals have retired and reinstated themselves without a fight. The idea that the Lineal, Sullivan's title, could be stripped or lost due to retirement is a sanctioning body era idea. Corbett retired and regained his title without a fight solely to cashin against Fitzs.


So, lineal's all sorts of ****ey these days. Everyone thinks they have a point....without ever looking into the era they site as the origin point for the title or how it got to this.

[OldTerry]

Objectively scoring the fight for Wilder tells us you don't know boxing from badminton.

So somehow you elevate yourself to the position of objective judge? This means that only your opinion counts, right with no room for differing opinions? I think you're the one who doesn't know boxing from badminton.