Boxers outside of their prime

[Shrap]

Anyone else lose interest in a boxer when they have obviously slipped or become old? I thought about this as I didn't watch GGG fight on the weekend nor did I watch his last fight against that nobody. I will still watch a big fight against a great opponent, such as his fight against Canelo last year, but even then it's more of a curiosity to see how much he has left in the tank.

I feel the same way with Pac even though he has held up a lot better despite being older. He's still way below his prime so it kills a lot of interest for me.

Then there are damaged goods like Kell Brook. I don't have any interest in watching boxers who have become shells of themselves.

What are your thoughts? Do you keep following a boxer even when they aren't what they once were or do you lose interest in them?

[giant_king]

All that crap kinda means nothing now a days when athletes reach a certain age they turn to juicing now they have the fountain of youth back all of sudden smdh

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I usually just watch the major fights in the division and if someone toutes a fighter I've never heard of as special I check them out.

I think it's tough watching one of your favorites regress due to age but it's something you have to get used to in every sport. Pac is definitely one of a kind at 40 boxing but hes definitely not the guy he used to be and as a boxing fan first and a pac fan second you have to be honest.

Pacs last couple fights made him look pretty good but a lot of it had to be done with match making. Broner is a middling gate keeper talent at 147. Thurman had fought a real fight in over 2 years and never looked his old self. Great opportunities for Pac.

But.

I don't see how if pac was matched up against Spence or Crawford how he could possibly win. His reflexes arent there and Crawford and Spence are HUGE in comparison. Not only being longer both dudes are athletic and technical boxers.

Pac doesnt have on thing that made him great during his prime years. The power to keep bigger opponents off and the stamina to keep the pace up. Pac hasnt knocked out anyone in forever and he has gassed bad these last couple fights.

I wouldnt even pick Pac against someone solid like Shawn Porter. Porter would be relentless and walk through everything.

As with GGG we all knew he was slipping. Anyone honest could have told you that and at soon to be 38 hes not getting younger. Did he still have the power? Yes. But his legs and speed was visibly worse. These last fights against Rolls and Derevychanko? Terrible.

Imo hes made a mistake with Banks because it seems like either Banks is teaching him **** or GGG is really trying to take the **** Banks says and change his style instead of add to it.

Its like if Mike tyson decided to not be an aggressive counter puncher and instead decided to box like Floyd. GGG is doing the wrong ****. Hes hesitant and seems to be overthinking the **** hes doing instead of the stuff hes good at.

I think hell have to have a serious thought about where he goes next and I'd suggest one more opponent to gauge and then either fight Canelo or someone with a pulse or ride into the sunset.

We dont need anyone being RJJ and ruining his legacy when hes way past it.

[aboutfkntime]

I usually just watch the major fights in the division and if someone toutes a fighter I've never heard of as special I check them out.

I think it's tough watching one of your favorites regress due to age but it's something you have to get used to in every sport. Pac is definitely one of a kind at 40 boxing but hes definitely not the guy he used to be and as a boxing fan first and a pac fan second you have to be honest.

Pacs last couple fights made him look pretty good but a lot of it had to be done with match making. Broner is a middling gate keeper talent at 147. Thurman had fought a real fight in over 2 years and never looked his old self. Great opportunities for Pac.

But.

I don't see how if pac was matched up against Spence or Crawford how he could possibly win. His reflexes arent there and Crawford and Spence are HUGE in comparison. Not only being longer both dudes are athletic and technical boxers.

Pac doesnt have on thing that made him great during his prime years. The power to keep bigger opponents off and the stamina to keep the pace up. Pac hasnt knocked out anyone in forever and he has gassed bad these last couple fights.

I wouldnt even pick Pac against someone solid like Shawn Porter. Porter would be relentless and walk through everything.

As with GGG we all knew he was slipping. Anyone honest could have told you that and at soon to be 38 hes not getting younger. Did he still have the power? Yes. But his legs and speed was visibly worse. These last fights against Rolls and Derevychanko? Terrible.

Imo hes made a mistake with Banks because it seems like either Banks is teaching him **** or GGG is really trying to take the **** Banks says and change his style instead of add to it.

Its like if Mike tyson decided to not be an aggressive counter puncher and instead decided to box like Floyd. GGG is doing the wrong ****. Hes hesitant and seems to be overthinking the **** hes doing instead of the stuff hes good at.

I think hell have to have a serious thought about where he goes next and I'd suggest one more opponent to gauge and then either fight Canelo or someone with a pulse or ride into the sunset.

We dont need anyone being RJJ and ruining his legacy when hes way past it.

stop making excuses... and stop blaming Banks...

Golovkin was hesitant and non-committal with Jacobs AND with Canelo

that was long before he hooked up with Banks... back when he was "doing the stuff he is good at"... so stop making excuses

Golovkin has struggled ever since he stepped up in class

which explains why he passed on fights that he should have taken

he is not as good as you guys thought, plain and simple

[R-Hand Southpaw]

stop making excuses... and stop blaming Banks...

Golovkin was hesitant and non-committal with Jacobs AND with Canelo

that was long before he hooked up with Banks... back when he was "doing the stuff he is good at"... so stop making excuses

Golovkin has struggled ever since he stepped up in class

which explains why he passed on fights that he should have taken

he is not as good as you guys thought, plain and simple

Yeah because a boxing master like yourself could see that him vs Canelo and him vs Derevyanchenko were the same fighter.

Yeah that's right. Boxers at 38 are just as good as they are at 35. Every single one.

No no. I'll let you give me the name of 2 boxers to prove your entire point.

Oh yeah. I forget that when boxers change trainers they dont try to incorporate different ****.

Keep sucking that Canelo ****

[aboutfkntime]

Yeah because a boxing master like yourself could see that him vs Canelo and him vs Derevyanchenko were the same fighter.

Yeah that's right. Boxers at 38 are just as good as they are at 35. Every single one.

No no. I'll let you give me the name of 2 boxers to prove your entire point.

Oh yeah. I forget that when boxers change trainers they dont try to incorporate different ****.

Keep sucking that Canelo ****

Floyd Mayweather... Bernard Hopkins...

like I said, Golovkin has struggled ever since he stepped up in class with Danny Jacobs... and yet if you think back, G was in deep with Kassim Ouma back in his "prime"... and G was probably a better fighter at 34yo with Jacobs, than he was at 29yo with Ouma

Golovkin is simply not as good as you guys thought

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Floyd Mayweather... Bernard Hopkins...

like I said, Golovkin has struggled ever since he stepped up in class with Danny Jacobs... and yet if you think back, G was in deep with Kassim Ouma back in his "prime"... and G was probably a better fighter at 34yo with Jacobs, than he was at 29yo with Ouma

Golovkin is simply not as good as you guys thought

Yep. Lmfao. Called it.

Pick 2 fighters to suggest why GGG isnt good lmfao.

Only 2.

GGG struggled? Lmfao. You're the same dude who thinks Canelo is some god among men and Rank him so damn high despite his bust for PEDs and his ability to get gift decisions lmao. Dude even had his own weight class.

But you'll rag on someone like Lomachenko who did move up but not high enough for you to see him lose so you give him ****. Then when he dominates his competition by WIDE UDs he only looks average at best and isnt as good as someone like MIKEY GARCIA lmfao. Lomachenko is struggling because he didnt look as spectacular as he did at 130 fight because hes now fighting guys with 70+ inch reaches and guys who will outweigh him by 15+ lbs on fight night right?

Fighters at the elite level dont get knocked out because most of them have spectacular defenses. GGG doesnt have the resume but he proved it in the ring with Canelo.

As much of a boxing master you pretend to be most people saw old GGG beat a prime Canelo twice.

115-112x2 and 114-114 isnt dominant as much as you pretend it is.

GGG is Canelos best win and you'll want to call him a hype job.

Then to discredit GGG you give me ONE fight to show how "bad" he is.

Let me call that a Salido. SSALDIO. SALIDO DO DO. DO DO DO.. SALIDOOO.

cuz boxers who are great win all fights so easily. Every single match. They dont struggle at all ever lmfaooo

[LoadedWraps]

Yep. Lmfao. Called it.

Pick 2 fighters to suggest why GGG isnt good lmfao.

Only 2.

GGG struggled? Lmfao. You're the same dude who thinks Canelo is some god among men and Rank him so damn high despite his bust for PEDs and his ability to get gift decisions lmao. Dude even had his own weight class.

But you'll rag on someone like Lomachenko who did move up but not high enough for you to see him lose so you give him ****. Then when he dominates his competition by WIDE UDs he only looks average at best and isnt as good as someone like MIKEY GARCIA lmfao. Lomachenko is struggling because he didnt look as spectacular as he did at 130 fight because hes now fighting guys with 70+ inch reaches and guys who will outweigh him by 15+ lbs on fight night right?

Fighters at the elite level dont get knocked out because most of them have spectacular defenses. GGG doesnt have the resume but he proved it in the ring with Canelo.

As much of a boxing master you pretend to be most people saw old GGG beat a prime Canelo twice.

115-112x2 and 114-114 isnt dominant as much as you pretend it is.

GGG is Canelos best win and you'll want to call him a hype job.

Then to discredit GGG you give me ONE fight to show how "bad" he is.

Let me call that a Salido. SSALDIO. SALIDO DO DO. DO DO DO.. SALIDOOO.

cuz boxers who are great win all fights so easily. Every single match. They dont struggle at all ever lmfaooo

Nailed it right here. Great post.

OP must be hella young. I think it's even more exciting watching fighters who still have it out of their prime, it's inspiring stuff.

[R_Walken]

I watch my favourite fighters till their wheels fall off

B-Hop was/is my favourite all time and as great as it was watching him beat Tito / Tarver / Pavlik / Oscar

Watching him get knocked out the Ring by Joe Smith was depressing

But Father Time is Undefeated in sports even for Outliers like B-Hop / Nolan Ryan/ Gordie Howe that can compete at the Highest level into their 50s there’s always a end of the road for every athlete and usually the decline happens at at a rapid pace

[aboutfkntime]

Yep. Lmfao. Called it.

Pick 2 fighters to suggest why GGG isnt good lmfao.

Only 2.

GGG struggled? Lmfao. You're the same dude who thinks Canelo is some god among men and Rank him so damn high despite his bust for PEDs and his ability to get gift decisions lmao. Dude even had his own weight class.

But you'll rag on someone like Lomachenko who did move up but not high enough for you to see him lose so you give him ****. Then when he dominates his competition by WIDE UDs he only looks average at best and isnt as good as someone like MIKEY GARCIA lmfao. Lomachenko is struggling because he didnt look as spectacular as he did at 130 fight because hes now fighting guys with 70+ inch reaches and guys who will outweigh him by 15+ lbs on fight night right?

Fighters at the elite level dont get knocked out because most of them have spectacular defenses. GGG doesnt have the resume but he proved it in the ring with Canelo.

As much of a boxing master you pretend to be most people saw old GGG beat a prime Canelo twice.

115-112x2 and 114-114 isnt dominant as much as you pretend it is.

GGG is Canelos best win and you'll want to call him a hype job.

Then to discredit GGG you give me ONE fight to show how "bad" he is.

Let me call that a Salido. SSALDIO. SALIDO DO DO. DO DO DO.. SALIDOOO.

cuz boxers who are great win all fights so easily. Every single match. They dont struggle at all ever lmfaooo

you clowns said that he could beat Hagler

but, he couldn't even beat Derevyanchenko