Comments Thread For: Banks Surprised GGG Defeated Derevyanchenko Unanimously

[uppercut510]

So honesty makes you guys angry?

[hitmanjosh]

Why because he's calm in the corner

can't see how banks can last around triple ggg much longer

ggg didn't do anything he was told, the trainer not at fought

[tokon]

Just being real........

Haha, yeah, I know but the last trainer that was "real" got canned not too long after!

[Mammoth]

Haha, yeah, I know but the last trainer that was "real" got canned not too long after!

Abel was all gay for Canelo after the rematch though

[ruedboy]

Banks is on record for saying GGG's illness was "pretty horrible" so if Banks is a truth teller now, I guess he was then too.

[hitmanjosh]

I am a GGG fan but dam people

Let's be real, the trainer isn't at fought here! GGG is 37 years old and trying to break a guy from bad habits who has been getting away with things due to his power is a very hard thing to accomplish in 2 camps especially when he's fighting another seasoned strong fighter whom also is just as determined to win. Jonathan remained calm and told him simple things not to much, but it's up to the fighter to apply the teaching so once again I must say;

Most People Don't Know **** About Boxing!

[Elvelozpotosino]

Just to be clear. Abel told GGG he was losing the fight. And banks in his own words too. Surprised GGG won.

Age,. Canelos body shots or GGG was never elite. Sadly he never faced real opposition in his prime for us boxing fans to really know how good he really WAS*

[j.razor]

But he looks clearly different. He has a much lower volume and was far more hesitant vs Derevychenko and seemed to have his confidence broken. He never looked like that in other close fights like with Jacobs and Canelo and Canelo landed more bombs than Derevychenko.

And the trainer is exactly who you should blame. GGG got to where he is by focusing on what he does well. The trainer should focus on those things and maintain them or get GGG to be even better at them. If he looks worse following the trainers advice, than yea, it's the trainers fault.

He would never change & no trainer in the world could change him especially after the age of 37.

[j.razor]

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GGG fights at 160 just Incase you didn’t know that.
So when you throw names of 168 Ibs guys it’s a little disturbing - that would be like discrediting Froch for not moving to 175 or discrediting Calzaghe for not fighting at 175 (he did fight a faded Roy and Hopkins in his last 2 fights).

GGG at one time held 3 of the belts at 160.

Disturbing? Wait are you talking about Mr. Any one from 154 to 168?? Real disturbing

AND Joke Calslappy did NOT beat B-Hop.

[Gate_Keeper]

Let's be real, the trainer isn't at fought here! GGG is 37 years old and trying to break a guy from bad habits who has been getting away with things due to his power is a very hard thing to accomplish in 2 camps especially when he's fighting another seasoned strong fighter whom also is just as determined to win. Jonathan remained calm and told him simple things not to much, but it's up to the fighter to apply the teaching so once again I must say;

Most People Don't Know **** About Boxing!

Please actually read a person's argument before arguing against it, otherwise you will be creating strawman arguments all day. It would also be nice if you elaborated on your previous comment to me.

Second, GGG is not some upstart in training who has time to find out his best boxing style. Boxing is a business and he has brand now and can't afford to lose or even look bad. And not every fighter has an aptitude for even some basic things. Could Floyd Mayweather Sr really train Lemeuix to fight like Mayweather Jr if he tries hard enough?

Each fighter just has to find out what they do well and use their physical and mental gifts to the best of their ability and see how far it takes them. It would be silly to have Golovkin fight practicing things that disrupts his natural fighting ability rather than adding to it. I mean what good are all these new tricks if it gets GGG ko'ed because he can't do them right in an actually boxing fight and then his stock goes down and legacy destroyed? Should he spend the rest of career losing fights or looking terrible in an effort to master these new tricks? Let's say he does all these new tricks well, but he loses the other risky techniques which made him successful and now he's just average fighter? It's not as simple "just do this" and a good trainer would know that. If GGG is not doing something, there's a reason for it. Instead of training Lemeuix to fight with a ring IQ like Mayweather, just train him to rely more on his power because he's able to use it well. If he doesn't fight well backing up, look for an alternative he can do well.

Changing GGG style could end up making him a much better fighter but it could also make him way more average. You just never know. That kind of experimentation is fine for upstarts fighting in a gym. But it's way too late in GGG's career to go experimenting with radically different styles because you never know if it's gonna hold up in an actual fight against an opponent of a particular style. And once again GGG clearly became hesitant and loss confidence, sonething he never did with Abel Sanchez. It may make sense to you for him to just keep doing that, even if he takes a beating and starts losing fights, until he masters whatever the new guy is teaching him but that doesn't make sense to me. I say do what gives you confidence and what got you this far. That will be the best version of you.