look back at 2015 Ggg and Kovalev were boogy men of boxing now both guys look rusty!

[D4thincarnation]

Yeah it is very strange that two guys in their late 30s are on a sharp decline.


I wonder what is the reason for it.





Some people really have no clue.

[bigtyivier2k2]

4 years in your 30’s in any contact sport can change you. Bernard Hopkins was an outlier. GGG is 37 and Kov 36 so 4 years ago at 32 and 33 yeah they were finishing their prime

[Boxing Logic]

4 years in your 30’s in any contact sport can change you. Bernard Hopkins was an outlier. GGG is 37 and Kov 36 so 4 years ago at 32 and 33 yeah they were finishing their prime

I dont think its age. I used to think it was altitude, but now I dont even know about that. What I noticed going back and rewatching fights is that every fight with Abel, GGG got bigger. He kept getting more and more muscular. At the beginning it made him more powerful, and his speed was still good. But as it kept going, he got slower.

I think hes just too muscular. Same sort of happened to Loma. From 126 to 130, he got more muscular and more powerful, but just as fast. Peak Loma. From 130 to 135, he got even more muscular, and unlike GGG more powerful still, but at the cost of speed.

When GGG punches now it looks like there are weights on his shoulders or biceps slowing the punch down. Not only is the speed less, but when his opponent moves their head, he cant adjust the trajectory of the punch midflight as well. It's like the punches are less agile to move to the target because he's carrying too much muscle and it makes him too stiff.

GGG's first fight on HBO he was 168 pounds fight night with clothes on, probably 165 in the ring. Now he looks closer to 175 in the ring. That alone will slow you down. I think GGG should cut out of the weights, forget about power and strength, and do everything possible to get not just his speed, but his AGILITY back.

Is age a factor? Of course but a few pounds can make a big difference too. Kovalev came in lighter for the Alvarez rematch and it made a big difference especially to his STAMINA. Too much muscle drains your stamina quickly.

[moochi]

Lol what a pathetic troll of a post.

Instead of praising both for fighting well into their late 30s and entertaining us, you go in with a ridiculously bias angle.

Neither of them have got vulnerable you fool, they have got older and and the longer you stay in the game the more young challengers come through.

Kovalev did well in beating Ward and GGG did well in beating Canelo. Were they going to KO them? Well history shows that the highest level match ups normally end in points decisions and of course being the Home fighters they always knew surviving to the bell would afford them a home robbery.

[hmc87]

4yrs ago these were the 2 euro terrors everyone was afraid of now both guys look like the weakest champs in their division. Its crazy how things change in a few short years.
(Btw I'm not hater fan of both it's just crazy how they gotten vulnerable in 4yrs).

Kovalev is still an ATG at LHW. He was always fighting the best available opponents and he won Ward 1. At 36 Kovalev is showing slippage, but hes older...what do you expect?

GGG was always a taxi cab conqueror. Every time he stepped up (Jacobs, Canelo, Dervenchenko, etc.) he looked average. A case can be made for GGG losing all of those fights, too

[hmc87]

I dont think its age. I used to think it was altitude, but now I dont even know about that. What I noticed going back and rewatching fights is that every fight with Abel, GGG got bigger. He kept getting more and more muscular. At the beginning it made him more powerful, and his speed was still good. But as it kept going, he got slower.

I think hes just too muscular. Same sort of happened to Loma. From 126 to 130, he got more muscular and more powerful, but just as fast. Peak Loma. From 130 to 135, he got even more muscular, and unlike GGG more powerful still, but at the cost of speed.

When GGG punches now it looks like there are weights on his shoulders or biceps slowing the punch down. Not only is the speed less, but when his opponent moves their head, he cant adjust the trajectory of the punch midflight as well. It's like the punches are less agile to move to the target because he's carrying too much muscle and it makes him too stiff.

GGG's first fight on HBO he was 168 pounds fight night with clothes on, probably 165 in the ring. Now he looks closer to 175 in the ring. That alone will slow you down. I think GGG should cut out of the weights, forget about power and strength, and do everything possible to get not just his speed, but his AGILITY back.

Is age a factor? Of course but a few pounds can make a big difference too. Kovalev came in lighter for the Alvarez rematch and it made a big difference especially to his STAMINA. Too much muscle drains your stamina quickly.

GGG was just never very good. A good fighter for sure, but never something special.

That's why Loma can keep winning against the best available competition...because hes a great fighter and does not benefit from weight draining or anything like that...hes just good. Period

[moochi]

GGG was just never very good. A good fighter for sure, but never something special.

That's why Loma can keep winning against the best available competition...because hes a great fighter and does not benefit from weight draining or anything like that...hes just good. Period

Giving fighters a title such as good, very good, great, elite, ATG is all subjective and so open to bias.

GGG was good enough to beat a prime time Canelo away from home in Canelo's little den.. and he still schooled him.

I consider Canelo very good by the way and an elite business man.

I always say..imagine in fighters like GGG, Carl Froch, Kovalev, etc.. were Americans or Mexicans, they would be Gods.

[hmc87]

Giving fighters a title such as good, very good, great, elite, ATG is all subjective and so open to bias.

GGG was good enough to beat a prime time Canelo away from home in Canelo's little den.. and he still schooled him.

I consider Canelo very good by the way and an elite business man.

I always say..imagine in fighters like GGG, Carl Froch, Kovalev, etc.. were Americans or Mexicans, they would be Gods.

Your entire post is subjective and wrong at every point.

GGG was good enough to beat a prime time Canelo away from home in Canelo's little den.. and he still schooled him.

When did that happen? The Canelo haters say 2 contradictory things - GGG beat Canelo and Canelo gets gift decisions. If that's the case then Canelo isnt great or anything special. So the fact that GGG couldn't clearly beat him in 24 rounds says a lot.

And both fights were scored correctly. A draw and a split decision.

I always say..imagine in fighters like GGG, Carl Froch, Kovalev, etc.. were Americans or Mexicans, they would be Gods.

Nearly all Americans cheered for GGG not Canelo...so Borat was an adopted American. And that's irrelevant. Do you know why?

Because Deontay Wilder is better than GGG and hes as exciting and is 100% American - and nobody cares.

[-DSG-]

36 and 37 that's old in boxing years.

[strykr619]

4yrs ago these were the 2 euro terrors everyone was afraid of now both guys look like the weakest champs in their division. Its crazy how things change in a few short years.
(Btw I'm not hater fan of both it's just crazy how they gotten vulnerable in 4yrs).

Because 4 years at fighting how many times a year WEARS YOU DOWN. I just hope they both put money away because their laters years might be grim health wise.