OFFICIAL: Who Do You Think Won The Fight, GGG or Derevyanchenko?

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  • Cobra Curry
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    #41
    Didn't keep a scorecard, but Chenko was giving my guy the business early on. Faster hands and feet, lovely angles, crushing body attack.
    Why he stopped going to the body in the middle rounds I'll never know.
    While he stayed busy late, I felt he became less accurate as he tired while Golovkin somehow kept his form together landing the clearer shots.
    Could've gone either way in my mind, certainly wouldn't have complained if Chenko got the nod and yes I'm a Golovkin fan.

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    • ADP02
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      #42
      Win or lose, the real headlines to me is GGG's poor performance.

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      • BIG GUNZ
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        #43
        I just rewatched it & had it 115-112 for Derevyanchenko. I’m a big GGG fan too & can’t find more than maybe 5 rounds at best that he won. There weren’t many close rounds as the commentators were saying. I think an immediate rematch should happen in Feb-Mar 2020, Derevyancehnko at least deserves that.

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        • Sweet Scions
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          #44
          I had this legitimately 10-2 for Sergiy; Rd 1 a 10-8 for Golovkin with the knockdown, and 7. Other than that Derev all night exhibiting the much better workrate, (effective) aggression, overall variety (with some superb body work peppered throughout) and an impressive connect rate that Golovkin's moderate success with clean power shots just couldn't compensate for. This with the concession several of those were swing round territory.

          Suffice to say it wasn't what I expected...I predicted early success for Derev yielding something close to an even score through the first half, with Golovkin likely finding the KO at some point from 7 forward. In many ways this was standard issue Golovkin--with the dominant jab, intermittent success with hooks/uppercuts, and minimal head movement that leads to eating multiple shots from virtually any half decent opponent before they eventually succumb--just a con****uously weaker, less active version of it. My prevailing thought as it unfolded was who in the division's top vicinity wouldn't have gotten the better of him tonight? One could see Jermall, Jacobs or even Culcay, who gave Derev a hellacious scrap in his prior fight having similar success against tonight's Golovkin (to be clear any of them has a fair shot at Golovkin period, but particularly tonight's version). I've leaned to the su****ion Andrade/BJS box hypothetical circles around him for about 2 or so years, so that's kind of a constant. Canelo outboxes tonight's version more definitively, if not necessarily a stoppage.

          Bottom line the one-sided nature of tonight felt more like Golovkin slippage rather than a Derev masterclass, which isn't to diminish Segiy's effort. But it was basically an "off" Golovkin vs a hungry, Spence-Garcia workrate fueled largely by last chance desperation and certainly right there front and center to be hit. So the question for me is whether father time finally swung the gavel, or tonight we were looking at a literal headcold/tummy ache on Golovkin's end. Sergiy absolutely deserves a rematch, which could prove very telling in that regard.

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          • thedarkdragon11
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            #45
            I had it 7-5 in favor of Derevyanchenko... But GGG losing to another opponent will look bad in the eyes of Canelo fanbois...

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            • jdp28tx
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              #46
              Serg won every rd after the 2nd rd. Easy, clear cut rds to score. It was a robbery! Serg landed by far the more, effective, cleaner punches all night He hurt GGG multiple times, his defense was better, backed up GGG all night. Serg won every rd after the 2nd rd. Easy, clear cut rds to score. It was a robbery!

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              • JimRaynor
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                #47
                What happens next will be interesting.

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                • DuckAdonis
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                  #48
                  Golovkin 114-113

                  Golovkin rounds 1,2,6,7,9,12
                  Derevyanchenko rounds 3,4,5,8,10,11

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Sweet Scions
                    I had this legitimately 10-2 for Sergiy; Rd 1 a 10-8 for Golovkin with the knockdown, and 7. Other than that Derev all night exhibiting the much better workrate, (effective) aggression, overall variety (with some superb body work peppered throughout) and an impressive connect rate that Golovkin's moderate success with clean power shots just couldn't compensate for. This with the concession several of those were swing round territory.

                    Suffice to say it wasn't what I expected...I predicted early success for Derev yielding something close to an even score through the first half, with Golovkin likely finding the KO at some point from 7 forward. In many ways this was standard issue Golovkin--with the dominant jab, intermittent success with hooks/uppercuts, and minimal head movement that leads to eating multiple shots from virtually any half decent opponent before they eventually succumb--just a con****uously weaker, less active version of it. My prevailing thought as it unfolded was who in the division's top vicinity wouldn't have gotten the better of him tonight? One could see Jermall, Jacobs or even Culcay, who gave Derev a hellacious scrap in his prior fight having similar success against tonight's Golovkin (to be clear any of them has a fair shot at Golovkin period, but particularly tonight's version). I've leaned to the su****ion Andrade/BJS box hypothetical circles around him for about 2 or so years, so that's kind of a constant. Canelo outboxes tonight's version more definitively, if not necessarily a stoppage.

                    Bottom line the one-sided nature of tonight felt more like Golovkin slippage rather than a Derev masterclass, which isn't to diminish Segiy's effort. But it was basically an "off" Golovkin vs a hungry, Spence-Garcia workrate fueled largely by last chance desperation and certainly right there front and center to be hit. So the question for me is whether father time finally swung the gavel, or tonight we were looking at a literal headcold/tummy ache on Golovkin's end. Sergiy absolutely deserves a rematch, which could prove very telling in that regard.
                    I did not see a GGG dominant jab tonight. Serg was way more effective with his jab. For a short guy Serg has a long reach. He used it to get inside and using a hard jab just to pop GGG in the face. GGG's jab was weak, missing, and not at all that accurate. He found no rhythm with his jab or any other punch throughout the entire fight.

                    GGG got pushed back and battered to the head and visibly hurt to the body multiple times. At times it looked as if GGG was ready to throw in the towel. He looked defeated, dead tired, and confused and all this before the 8th rd. He also showed he is no longer willing to eat a punch or 2 to land his punch. He is obviously feeling the punches more and he is no longer willing to pay the price in order to impose his will anymore.

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                    • Sweet Scions
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by jdp28tx
                      I did not see a GGG dominant jab tonight. Serg was way more effective with his jab. For a short guy Serg has a long reach. He used it to get inside and using a hard jab just to pop GGG in the face. GGG's jab was weak, missing, and not at all that accurate. He found no rhythm with his jab or any other punch throughout the entire fight.

                      GGG got pushed back and battered to the head and visibly hurt to the body multiple times. At times it looked as if GGG was ready to throw in the towel. He looked defeated, dead tired, and confused and all this before the 8th rd. He also showed he is no longer willing to eat a punch or 2 to land his punch. He is obviously feeling the punches more and he is no longer willing to pay the price in order to impose his will anymore.
                      I meant it being the dominant punch in his arsenal, not it being stronger or more successful than Sergiy's. I knew that phrasing was going to cause confusion but I didn't bother to edit.

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