Wilder's inability to own his Fury performance

[soul_survivor]

D9nt be fooled, wilder preps well. Yes he is extremely limited but he will catch fury again, if they fight. This time fury will stay down.

[Ray*]

scored* continued*

He’s rich with a little brain and you’re broke with a little brain. Fury running from the rematch because he knows he can’t win with Vada testing him. That’s why he lied about being enrolled until WBC threatened to not sanction the fight. Once a cheater always a cheater.

Not sure what this has to do with the thread or post above, you seemed triggered about something here

[sunny31]

Wilder has always been deluded, i don't think that makes him weak mentally. It just makes him look dumb, I mean he is so deluded to the point where, he couldn't get over the fact that he score a KD and his opponent got up and fought on and even hurt him, i mean you would think his little brains would process the fact that his previous sub-standard opponents are totally different to the guy who got up.

For me it shows how terrible his previous opponents were, the moment he lands on them its over. This was why he was doing that little dance and then turning around shooked that Fury got up in time and continue to give him a boxing lesson.

I agree with much of what you're saying...I do think that his right hand is bionic though. For sure he doesn't seem to have processed that he was up a level or 2 against Fury. It could be that behind closed doors him and his team know where he went wrong, but at the moment I'm taking him at face value, I dont think hes that clever, I think he speaks from his heart most of the time. I think if he has the same problems early in the second fight he will start doubting himself.

If Wilder can put things together, stylistically the fight still favours him in many ways, I think Fury has to land something hurtful early this time

[sunny31]

only ******s like this think wilder isn't focused and trying to improve...

you can talk and sell yourself and still be working behind the scenes to improve.....people don't understand wilder...hes unbelievably humble behind the scenes...but he knows how to play things up in front of cameras and sell himself

Humility has nothing to do with it...I'm not doubting that. He speaks from the heart, but he isn't acknowledging the problems he had in the fight...this takes me back to Ward-Kovalev a bit and what Ward was saying in the build up to the rematch...Kovalev rightfully felt he won the first fight, but refused to own the weaknesses in his performance...Wilder is doing the same thing here.

This isn't about selling...if he was being a salesman you say something like "well if you doubt I won, I'm ready to run it back and shut everybody up" but he just comes out with excuse after excuse, justification after justification, which tells me that he hasn't processed it.

[sunny31]

Wilder is a bum beating fraud who arguably lost to Fury and got help in the Ortiz fight from the ref. He has fought 95% bums and yet he parades around running his mouth like he's putting in work. He's never unified. He's never fought anyone good outside of a 40 year old on heart medication or a guy that was 3 years out of the ring. He refuses to fight Whyte, Povetkin, Pulev, AJ, Parker or anyone else in the top 10 right now and he never fought Haye or the Klitschkos either. He is a complete and utter fraud. But people are ******, so as long as he keeps getting KO's, they will follow him.

I think Fraud is too strong, I actually rate him very highly, he is rough around the edges, and will never be a great boxer, but he is super fast, finds a way to get his best punches home and his power is disgusting.

[Southpawology]

Wilder has a victim and entitlement mentality. Fury beat the refs 10 count, GET OVER IT.

[2ndroundko]

hopefully wilder’s opponents don’t think like the thread starter. wilder hired a nutritionist, went back and studied tapes on all his fights, brought some new people into camp. pay attention to actions and not words.

[Tyistall]

I think Fraud is too strong, I actually rate him very highly, he is rough around the edges, and will never be a great boxer, but he is super fast, finds a way to get his best punches home and his power is disgusting.

Yes but he never truly challenges himself with all that power. mike Tyson proved to us all that it was easy to knock out bums and look amazing doing it. But when he fought good boxers, he failed. Wilder is the same except he hasn't fought most of the good boxers of the last 10 years. He fought 2 decent ones and both wins were in question. If he fought Haye, either Klitschko, AJ, Whyte, Povetkin or any of the other top ten boxers right now, and he knocked them all out or won, then yes, call him and his power amazing. But you can't fight 40+ fights and only 2 decent opponents and sit there calling yourself the baddest man on the planet. That's why I call him a fraud. He's false advertising.