Comments Thread For: FOX Exec Expects Four To Five Pay-Per-Views A Year

[2ndroundko]

Huh promoters do sign fighters smh. And showtime has had a bad year this year. No way around it

promoters signing fighters regularly is relatively new (latter part of 20th century) and coincides with the downfall of the sport. the original promoters rarely signed fighters because (surprise) they promoted events. the managers had signed agreements with the fighters. somehow being a “promoter” now means signing fighters according to you, although it never was that way in boxing and isnt in any other sport or field either. so when you say you dont consider a promoter to be a true promoter if they don’t sign fighters, it means you’re an ignoramus who probably only says that because you closet jockrides some promoter.

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

Remember when PBC was first announced it was supposed to be FREE boxing on basic cable . LMAO. The good ol' bait and switch 6 years later. Wheres all the PBC fanboys ???

There are so many things wrong with your post. Basic cable isn't free. PBC brought boxing back to network TV, which it continues to do. Nobody is putting better boxing on free TV than PBC is. PBC never said anything about getting rid of PPV. Quite the opposite. When PBC was launched, there were investor articles that clearly stated the plan was to build new stars on free TV and after a few years, try to turn them into PPV stars. Which is exactly what PBC has done.

[Scipio2009]

thats why u got called on your lies that showtime has had more than one card all year on showtime championship boxing. Lara Cataño is it so far. Period. A fact.

Since you only care about one fight on the bill, having any conversation about an actual fight card is a waste of air at this point.

Not counting PPVs, the Showtime cards so far this year were Davis-Ruiz, Lara-Castano, Shields-Hammer, Easter-Barthelemy, Wilder-Breazeale, Charlo-Adams, Davis-Nunez, and Ennis-Fernandez (was supposed to be Shields at 154), with Lubin-Gallimore set for the end of October, and Charlo-Hogan written in for early December.

Both Davis cards had 60/40 fights covering the undercard, the Shields-Hammer card didn't really have anything under it, Easter-Barthelemy had a good show under it, as did Wilder-Breazeale, the Charlo-Adams card didn't really measure up, and the Ennis-Fernandez card fell short when it lost the main event.

To that, the October show is still looking really good (even if it's just lost Gausha for the main event, Lubin-Gallimore is still a top prospect vs top prospect showdown to headline, with Easter-Granados and Efe Ajagba on the bill, with a possibly interesting prospect fight under that at 147), and the Charlo brothers shows (one on FOX; one on Showtime) are basically going to be the last dates for guys who want to fight to get on before the end of the year.

Assuming no other shows get added, of the 10 shows on the Showtime calendar this year, the year may end with 7 of the 10 shows actually delivering quality nights of fights, particularly if you tune in for more than just the main event.

[killakali]

promoters signing fighters regularly is relatively new (latter part of 20th century) and coincides with the downfall of the sport. the original promoters rarely signed fighters because (surprise) they promoted events. the managers had signed agreements with the fighters. somehow being a “promoter” now means signing fighters according to you, although it never was that way in boxing and isnt in any other sport or field either. so when you say you dont consider a promoter to be a true promoter if they don’t sign fighters, it means you’re an ignoramus who probably only says that because you closet jockrides some promoter.

Your way off on this and you are closet jock riding a manager.

The reason there is promoters is simple. take some of these prospects. Let’s start with say a Vergil Ortiz and say Efe Agjagba.

What promoters would out guys like that on cards when they started out if they didn’t have a contract. Promoters lose money on fighters as they start out and then recoup it down the road and in many cases never recoup it.

How would those guys have gotten their developmental fights?

They don’t appear to have the money to come out of pocket to do it themselves. So they would need a manger to buy them fights. So if that’s the scenario that manager would be taking the full max limit of 33% of their purse. Does that sound smart?

Not everyone can go the Devin Haney route.

[2ndroundko]

Your way off on this and you are closet jock riding a manager.

The reason there is promoters is simple. take some of these prospects. Let’s start with say a Vergil Ortiz and say Efe Agjagba.

What promoters would out guys like that on cards when they started out if they didn’t have a contract. Promoters lose money on fighters as they start out and then recoup it down the road and in many cases never recoup it.

How would those guys have gotten their developmental fights?

They don’t appear to have the money to come out of pocket to do it themselves. So they would need a manger to buy them fights. So if that’s the scenario that manager would be taking the full max limit of 33% of their purse. Does that sound smart?

Not everyone can go the Devin Haney route.

this has nothing to do with what i wrote. im not asking you to justify your stance. im responding to the prior ignorant comment you made.

[KTFOKING]

youre right in that I didn’t think porter would be that competitive.

https://www.******.com/475181-ward-k...s-source-says/

Kovalev Ward over 160k buys. Spence Porter around 275k buys so yeah they are around 100k of each other lol. So stop the lies.

Considering the purses pos and PBC losing money how is it a success? Spence was guaranteed 9 mil Porter 5 and Dirrell and Benavidez 1 mil each

For the garcia fight it was 8 and 5 for the main event. So how’s that a success.

Huh? What are you trying to argue with the Kovalev/Ward buys? Like WTF are you even doing? You said Ward/Kovalev did within 100k buys of Spence/Porter? No it did not. If you are going to cap Spence/Porter at 275k and not 300k, then put a cap on Ward/Kovalev at 160k. Either way, one PPV clearly out performed the other.

For the Garcia fight it was Spence 9M and Garcia 8.5 according to Idec. Where did it state that Spence was guaranteed 9M this fight and Porter was guaranteed 5M? I mean that could have been the case for sure, but I haven't heard anyone state those particular numbers. Who did? I just know Coppinger said Spence has a 7-8M guarantee per fight now.

Once again, if you can't see what Spence is doing in his PPVs compared to his peers, then I don't know what to tell you. This conversation could end here for real, but he's now going to be a 2x per year PPV fighter.