Comments Thread For: Wilder: They Say Ortiz is Old - But They Won't Fight That Old Man

[Boxing lives]

Again, go watch the video of Haye flooring Wilder several times. Also, at least Haye tried to unify. Something your idol Wilder is too much of a fraud to try and do. Povetkin had trace amounts of something that they had just banned in his system, meaning it was legal when he took it. Wilder ran. point blank. And what is Ortiz' best win? Dave Allen? And I love how you ignore the fact that Wilder never, ever mentioned Klitschko, either one of them hahaha. Fact it ****head, your idol is a fraud, which makes you an assclown. So you can pump up this ducker all day, but in the end, this is the reason why Wilder isn't even the main event in the Ortiz rematch farce. no one wants to come out to see him beat up an old man again hahaha. He's ****, and his resume is ****. And his fans are dumb****s. do you got that? boy

Dude Haye couldn't drop Wilder in his wildest dream today or any other heavyweight for that matter. He is a broken down bum like I said before! Wilder didn't run from Povetkin you diseased shit. He was willing to fight despite the failed test. Wilder has been on boxingscene saying he would fight Klit you liar. Wlad is in his forties, its not like Wilder would get any credit for fighting him. You are one lying moronic twat bitch. Wilder is afraid of a relic like Wlad but fought Fury, who dominated him and won every round? Some logic you have.

[Boxing lives]

Any one can have an off night... Ortiz was the main target with the biggest payday of his entire career, he went missing. Ruiz took his chance, thats the sweet science of boxing. I prefare a guy that try than a guy that wish to try. 6yrs as champ no unification, you can't defend this no matter how hard you try. That brother can't go outside the comfort zone if all the starks are not in his favor. Over 70% of his opponents are guys ranked close to 100 or above 100.

The Fury fight was a unification with the WBC and lineal ring belts on the line. You realize team Ortiz said the guy that negotiated wasn't authorized to negotiate on Ortiz's behalf right? So basically Hearn just did that to make Ortiz look bad. Notice how when they came out in the media to restart negotiations Eddie didn't engage. Its clear Fast Eddie used Team Ortiz's weak grasp of the English language to pull one over on them. He knew you AJ crumpets would gobble it up and talk about how King Kong turned down 7 million. Even that complete fag cocksucking bitch poster Ray red k'd me earlier in the thread and used that farce as the reason. Sure anyone can have an off night but was it really an off night or is AJ just an overrated big oaf? If Ruiz destroys AJ again then it means AJ was an overprotected coward hypejob. DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR!!!!!?????????

[Tyistall]

Over 70% of wilders opponents were ranked close to 100. Many above 100.

In his 32nd fight he fought Jason Gavern who was ranked 194th. In his 30th fight, he fought Nicolia Firtha who was ranked 121st. In his 28th fight, he fought Audley Harrison who was ranked 136th. The fight before that, he fought Matthew Greer who was ranked...(drum roll) 325th. This dude has BEEN fighting bums and yet somehow, some way, his fans keep pumping him up like he's Ali, Tyson and Joe Louis all rolled into one. And the are saying that he hits harder than Foreman hahah. If other boxers fought the level of opponents that Wilder fought, then they would look like the hardest hitter in heavyweight history too hahaha.

[Tyistall]

Dude Haye couldn't drop Wilder in his wildest dream today or any other heavyweight for that matter. He is a broken down bum like I said before! Wilder didn't run from Povetkin you diseased shit. He was willing to fight despite the failed test. Wilder has been on boxingscene saying he would fight Klit you liar. Wlad is in his forties, its not like Wilder would get any credit for fighting him. You are one lying moronic twat bitch. Wilder is afraid of a relic like Wlad but fought Fury, who dominated him and won every round? Some logic you have.

Wow you are ******. I mean, are you a short bus guy or something? Because then maybe I can understand that you are slow. Listen, dumbass, HAYE FOUGHT KLITSCHKO IN A UNIFICATION FIGHT. Wilder and his managers were too scared to fight either Klitschko. And if Wilder was so willing to fight Povetkin, then why hasn't he???? He fought Ortiz and Fury, both who got caught with steroids. Why hasn't he fought Whyte?? Or AJ for 120 million?? How do you idiotic Wilder fans justify him ducking 120 million and unification?? Are you really sucking his **** that hard??? I mean, is he ****ing you are something? Because that's the only way I see a grown man justifying another man ducking unification and 120 million hahah. Come up for air little b!tch and stop idolizing your fraud "chumpion"

[Laligalaliga]

The Fury fight was a unification with the WBC and lineal ring belts on the line. You realize team Ortiz said the guy that negotiated wasn't authorized to negotiate on Ortiz's behalf right? So basically Hearn just did that to make Ortiz look bad. Notice how when they came out in the media to restart negotiations Eddie didn't engage. Its clear Fast Eddie used Team Ortiz's weak grasp of the English language to pull one over on them. He knew you AJ crumpets would gobble it up and talk about how King Kong turned down 7 million. Even that complete fag cocksucking bitch poster Ray red k'd me earlier in the thread and used that farce as the reason. Sure anyone can have an off night but was it really an off night or is AJ just an overrated big oaf? If Ruiz destroys AJ again then it means AJ was an overprotected coward hypejob. DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR!!!!!?????????

Haha hahaha.....I didn't know you were this gullible. Ortiz have had about 20 fights as a professional with his team negotiating his fights. All of a sudden a guy from no where came to negotiate the biggest fight of his career...LMAO. I cant believe this insanity.

Once again you can't defend 6yrs as champ no unification....there is no way in hell you do that. It's as weak as your brain cells.

Wilder/fury 1, unification match? What is it you are smoking again?

[Laligalaliga]

Dude Haye couldn't drop Wilder in his wildest dream today or any other heavyweight for that matter. He is a broken down bum like I said before! Wilder didn't run from Povetkin you diseased shit. He was willing to fight despite the failed test. Wilder has been on boxingscene saying he would fight Klit you liar. Wlad is in his forties, its not like Wilder would get any credit for fighting him. You are one lying moronic twat bitch. Wilder is afraid of a relic like Wlad but fought Fury, who dominated him and won every round? Some logic you have.

Thats not an issue here, was wilder dropped or not by haye?

[Laligalaliga]

In his 32nd fight he fought Jason Gavern who was ranked 194th. In his 30th fight, he fought Nicolia Firtha who was ranked 121st. In his 28th fight, he fought Audley Harrison who was ranked 136th. The fight before that, he fought Matthew Greer who was ranked...(drum roll) 325th. This dude has BEEN fighting bums and yet somehow, some way, his fans keep pumping him up like he's Ali, Tyson and Joe Louis all rolled into one. And the are saying that he hits harder than Foreman hahah. If other boxers fought the level of opponents that Wilder fought, then they would look like the hardest hitter in heavyweight history too hahaha.

Smiles..... See how they run away from this salient key points you dropped. They will pretend they didnt see it.
AJ is who he is today because he started taking risks early in his career when wilder was seen as a baby.
Imagine fighting a serial champ in fight #19. He was thrown into the lions den.

[Boxing lives]

Wow you are ******. I mean, are you a short bus guy or something? Because then maybe I can understand that you are slow. Listen, dumbass, HAYE FOUGHT KLITSCHKO IN A UNIFICATION FIGHT. Wilder and his managers were too scared to fight either Klitschko. And if Wilder was so willing to fight Povetkin, then why hasn't he???? He fought Ortiz and Fury, both who got caught with steroids. Why hasn't he fought Whyte?? Or AJ for 120 million?? How do you idiotic Wilder fans justify him ducking 120 million and unification?? Are you really sucking his **** that hard??? I mean, is he ****ing you are something? Because that's the only way I see a grown man justifying another man ducking unification and 120 million hahah. Come up for air little b!tch and stop idolizing your fraud "chumpion"

Why would Wilder fought Povetkin coming off a loss to AJ instead of Fury? Fury and Ortiz are both superior fighters to Povetkin, who had his chance and decided to roid up and then lose to british dosser AJ. David Haye fought Klit ages ago and lost on every score card. Looked like a bum in that fight. And that was when he wasn't a washed up shot has been with no legs. You are a gay faggot and its obvious by the perversion your own brain comes up with. Why would Wilder sign a slave multi fight contract with enemy snake Hearn just to fight B side loser AJ? Wilder is the undefeated A side and best in the world. He commands a massive pay day to fight AJ and doesn't have to commit to a multi fight contract. Is that clear fagboy? You are criticizing Wilder for fighting Fury and Ortiz instead of lesser competition you dumb fuckboy. Wilder obviously made the right decision not accepting the lowball offer to fight that spoiled brit AJ as his stock has skyrocketed with the thrilling Ortiz & Fury fights, while crumpet AJ got anniahlated by a fat slob in humiliating fashion! AJ is in no place to dictate terms. The fight will happen on A side Wilder's terms when he gets around to it. He has elite fighters to get out of the way before he gets to B level guys like AJ & Whyte.

[Boxing lives]

Thats not an issue here, was wilder dropped or not by haye?

Probably not. I see no footage of Wilder getting dropped by Haye on Youtube. Sounds like something yall just made up. I see Wilder off balance from lunging in and staying on his feet the whole time. Wilder has better balance then way back 6 years ago. Sounds like yall are grasping at straws to me. One thing we do know with certainty is that B level heavyweight Ruiz beat the living hell out of AJ, dropped him and stopped him. AJ wasn't man enough to make it to the final bell that night. Wilder has never even been dropped in the pro ranks. That we know for sure.

[Inspired]

Why would Wilder fought Povetkin coming off a loss to AJ instead of Fury? Fury and Ortiz are both superior fighters to Povetkin, who had his chance and decided to roid up and then lose to british dosser AJ. David Haye fought Klit ages ago and lost on every score card. Looked like a bum in that fight. And that was when he wasn't a washed up shot has been with no legs. You are a gay faggot and its obvious by the perversion your own brain comes up with. Why would Wilder sign a slave multi fight contract with enemy snake Hearn just to fight B side loser AJ? Wilder is the undefeated A side and best in the world. He commands a massive pay day to fight AJ and doesn't have to commit to a multi fight contract. Is that clear fagboy? You are criticizing Wilder for fighting Fury and Ortiz instead of lesser competition you dumb fuckboy. Wilder obviously made the right decision not accepting the lowball offer to fight that spoiled brit AJ as his stock has skyrocketed with the thrilling Ortiz & Fury fights, while crumpet AJ got anniahlated by a fat slob in humiliating fashion! AJ is in no place to dictate terms. The fight will happen on A side Wilder's terms when he gets around to it. He has elite fighters to get out of the way before he gets to B level guys like AJ & Whyte.

Povetkin got done for a very small amount of Meldonium, less than the allowed amount in fact. He contested it.

In May 2016, the WBC heavyweight title fight between Wilder and Povetkin, scheduled to take place in Moscow, was canceled just days before the bout, after the Russian boxer's doping test identified traces of Meldonium, a drug which had been added to the list of forbidden substances on January 1, 2016.

Wilder's team back then accused the Russian side of scuppering the fight, left Moscow and demanded compensation to the tune of $5 million. Ryabinsky and Mir Boksa, in response, asked for $34.5 million in damages to their boxer's honor and dignity.

Povetkin's team later provided evidence that the Russian did not consume Meldonium after it had been banned.

On June 27, 2017, Povetkin was reinstated in the WBO and WBA world rankings, following their lifting of his ban for doping.



Meldonium is not a steroid.

"However, there are debates over its use as an athletic performance enhancer. Some athletes are known to have been using it before it was banned.[3] It is currently unscheduled in the US."



check this out
https://www.rt.com/sport/424706-deon...in-court-case/

Wilder sued povetkin for $5m and got counter sued, then lost. It's fking funny...

So povetkin was cleared of ped use.

I find it odd that both povetkin and whyte have had this happen to them. It's as if Al haymon has these testing agencies in his pocket.