What are your rankings (top 4 ) now and in the future?

[AlexKid]

So the rankings for me currently have to be

1) Tyson Fury (the champ undisputed, highly dominant over everyone, hes not just the best hes the best and then some, he has quite the margin of dominance over Wlad points wise, and he was totally dominating Wilder in a similar way if it weren't for his near KO, hes not just the best hes like a step above most other highly ranking guys )

2) Deontay Wilder (millisecond away from number 1)

3) Ruiz after his KO of Joshua

4) Joshua (hes been blasting away the rest )



So thats the current rankings what will be the rankings a few years down the line where will these guys be ranked?

Just how good is Ruiz? Can he take out Deontay ? How does he fare against Fury?

I think Ruiz lacks the power Deontay has but has enough to hurt deontay and finish him, Deontay has plenty enough to finish Ruiz, but I think Ruiz has the skill speed and power to offset Deontays range and power advantage. I have Ruiz as number 2 in the future. Both are fast, I dont see the fight lasting the distance at all.


I think Fury with the right game plan can beat Ruiz but is vulnerable because he doesn't have the power to keep Ruiz scared of making exchanges, Ruiz also has great head movement speed and footwork on top of that, on the other hand I still rank Fury above him because he can tie up Ruiz easily ala Botha vs Tyson and he has range speed head movement and durability on top of that which would probably get him the points win. He basically has an easier time imposing what he wants than Ruiz does, but I think Ruiz is a big threat the biggest threat to Fury, because hes fast powerful and skilled.


Joshua I see he can obviously win the fight with Ruiz because he floored him in the 1st fight, it can go either way but i think statistically Ruiz is just more likely to win because he can hit and not get hit better than Joshua, Joshua doesn't have the head movement, and his endurance is suspect, hes probably going to get caught again or get tired and caught again after gassing. .



Deontay catches Joshua and KO's him I bet because he caught Fury and Fury has a fantastic chin and fantastic headmovment/footwork. He also hits harder than Ruiz. I just think hes asking for a KO with the poor head movement or very upright style


They are all great people that deserve number 1 but this is boxing its a brutal selection process, and there can only be 1 undisputed champion (at least all of them have solidified themselves in the history books as a heavyweight champion so in that sense all of them have a legacy and a place in history and have already won)


So future Alexkid rankings are...


1) Fury

2) Ruiz

3) Deontay

4) Joshua

[boliodogs]

I guess you must be talking heavyweight rankings and not PFP. No heavyweight is in my PFP rankings. Fury is not a champion of any kind/ If you are talking about that lineal BS he lost all lineal status by not fighting anybody for over three years. He lost all his titles by doing that. That's the way boxing works. Defend you title within a reasonable amount of time or lose it. Being out of boxing for over 3 years meant Fury lost all titles including lineal. Lineal is not a real title anyway.

[AlexKid]

I guess you must be talking heavyweight rankings and not PFP. No heavyweight is in my PFP rankings. Fury is not a champion of any kind/ If you are talking about that lineal BS he lost all lineal status by not fighting anybody for over three years. He lost all his titles by doing that. That's the way boxing works. Defend you title within a reasonable amount of time or lose it. Being out of boxing for over 3 years meant Fury lost all titles including lineal. Lineal is not a real title anyway.

Yes heavyweight. No p4p here please.

[aboutfkntime]

So the rankings for me currently have to be

1) Tyson Fury (the champ undisputed, highly dominant over everyone, hes not just the best hes the best and then some, he has quite the margin of dominance over Wlad points wise, and he was totally dominating Wilder in a similar way if it weren't for his near KO, hes not just the best hes like a step above most other highly ranking guys )

2) Deontay Wilder (millisecond away from number 1)

3) Ruiz after his KO of Joshua

4) Joshua (hes been blasting away the rest )



So thats the current rankings what will be the rankings a few years down the line where will these guys be ranked?

Just how good is Ruiz? Can he take out Deontay ? How does he fare against Fury?

I think Ruiz lacks the power Deontay has but has enough to hurt deontay and finish him, Deontay has plenty enough to finish Ruiz, but I think Ruiz has the skill speed and power to offset Deontays range and power advantage. I have Ruiz as number 2 in the future. Both are fast, I dont see the fight lasting the distance at all.


I think Fury with the right game plan can beat Ruiz but is vulnerable because he doesn't have the power to keep Ruiz scared of making exchanges, Ruiz also has great head movement speed and footwork on top of that, on the other hand I still rank Fury above him because he can tie up Ruiz easily ala Botha vs Tyson and he has range speed head movement and durability on top of that which would probably get him the points win. He basically has an easier time imposing what he wants than Ruiz does, but I think Ruiz is a big threat the biggest threat to Fury, because hes fast powerful and skilled.


Joshua I see he can obviously win the fight with Ruiz because he floored him in the 1st fight, it can go either way but i think statistically Ruiz is just more likely to win because he can hit and not get hit better than Joshua, Joshua doesn't have the head movement, and his endurance is suspect, hes probably going to get caught again or get tired and caught again after gassing. .



Deontay catches Joshua and KO's him I bet because he caught Fury and Fury has a fantastic chin and fantastic headmovment/footwork. He also hits harder than Ruiz. I just think hes asking for a KO with the poor head movement or very upright style


They are all great people that deserve number 1 but this is boxing its a brutal selection process, and there can only be 1 undisputed champion (at least all of them have solidified themselves in the history books as a heavyweight champion so in that sense all of them have a legacy and a place in history and have already won)


So future Alexkid rankings are...


1) Fury

2) Ruiz

3) Deontay

4) Joshua

not sure about rankings, but the best heavyweights are...

1) Fury
2) Wilder
3) Ruiz
4) AJ

... with Dillian Whyte taking the #5 spot

in future, I see...

1) Fury
2) Wilder
3) AJ
4) Ruiz/Whyte

and I see it staying that way for awhile

[AlexKid]

not sure about rankings, but the best heavyweights are...

1) Fury
2) Wilder
3) Ruiz
4) AJ

... with Dillian Whyte taking the #5 spot

in future, I see...

1) Fury
2) Wilder
3) AJ
4) Ruiz/Whyte

and I see it staying that way for awhile

You put Ruiz pretty low do you think Joshua took him lightly as just another guy he will probably beat, and didn't train as much as say he did vs wlad? (Thats a problem when you are champion everyone trains for their life vs you and there's a tenancy to only train to the max if its another big name)

[R.KHLMS4LIFE]

Hmm folks on this forum acting like usyk isn't a heavyweight now if usyk can handle the power then there's gonna be trouble for all heavyweights minus wilder who's probably the least technical boxer ever but makes up for it with having the best power out of any heavyweight of all time not named shavers. Itd be unfair honestly if wilder actually had technical abilities.

[MDPopescu]

... at this point:

#1 Wilder (because of his one punch power...)
#2 -
#3-4 Fury, Joshua...

... but in case Ruiz beats AJ again, I'll have him at #1...

[Redd Foxx]

Whut? Alexkid made a real thread with thoughtful analysis and opinion? This is the biggest shocker in boxing since Ruiz knocked out AJ. Love it.

[AlexKid]

Whut? Alexkid made a real thread with thoughtful analysis and opinion? This is the biggest shocker in boxing since Ruiz knocked out AJ. Love it.

You are really funny, I guess a strong in depth skill in comedy can offset your looks.


Boxing is very hard to predict, lets see how close I/we get.

[Redd Foxx]

You are really funny, I guess a strong in depth skill in comedy can offset your looks.


Boxing is very hard to predict, lets see how close I/we get.

I'm all for the "new you". I might not specifically agree with all the points made but it's good to see you delving into topics like this. Honestly.

And, yea, boxing is hard to predict. Anyone can guess winners but the "whys" and "hows" are where it gets complex and shows who really knows their shyt. I think that's also the fun part.