What constitutes a 'robbery'?

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  • STREET CLEANER
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    #51
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
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    Right here. You can't even make a case how the they won.

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    • Boxing_1013
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      #52
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      creates a thread criticizing posters for crying robbery...

      ... but then cries robbery
      ....this was in my original post:

      Originally posted by aboutfknredy
      Basically I just scratch my head at what we all consider robberies...I feel like I have seen quite a few in recent years...and I cannot even really take seriously the other side if they feel the guy who won did so legit...yet others swear Porter was robbed here, or Manny was robbed vs Horn, and I didn't see either of those happen.

      My thread was 'What constitutes a robbery?' ...and I asked fellow posters on here what they considered a robbery...I don't think your reading comprehension is very good usually my friend...maybe that is partially why you end up looking a bit foolish on here.

      I think you are probably a decent guy man, and I honestly try to give you a chance on here and help you out...I've gotten PMs about you on here from numerous guys and I don't think you are too well-liked.

      I think if you kept it a little more real on here and just stuck to boxing and left your feelings out of it, you would be looked at more favorably on here...I can tell you get a lot of satisfaction from posting here so just genuinely trying to help ya out...you are kind of a pariah and with how much you seem to enjoy being on this site, I think you would be better off just keeping it real and enjoying the boxing and leaving your feelings out of it.

      Hope you have a great day buddy!

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      • KingHippo
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        #53
        A robbery is any close fight the guy you like loses or the guy you hate wins

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        • Boxing_1013
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          #54
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
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          knowledgeable fans do not use compubox

          which is why we laugh when you casual-fan morons use it

          after those two fights... it is clearly obvious who the better fighter is

          not surprised at all that you don't know

          you, creating a thread criticizing posters for crying robbery... but then crying robbery in that very thread... is priceless

          just like how when you misquoted Steve Weisfeld, insinuating that his system would have awarded the fight to Golovkin... but not realizing that he was an official judge who awarded that fight to Canelo... was priceless
          Great example of why I end up having to put you on ignore man lol...you either don't debate in good faith or can't read man...no offense on that one but I don't know what else it could be...reading comprehension is like a 3rd grade skill bro, it should not be that hard...you are like 65 years old just messing with ya.

          I said those punch stat numbers are 'mine'....not from compubox...though compubox does often get it right and I agree more or less with their numbers in those 2 fights.

          Yes we all saw who the better fighter was in those 2 fights...it was obvious, I agree with you.

          Just referenced that my original post was asking what some guys on here consider a robbery...and in that post I acknowledged that some fights that some consider a robbery, I don't...and some fights in recent years were clear robberies imo...also I don't really give 2 sh.its about the GGG fights, since he got paid so well...he got paid handsomely for his 0 and belts so what can ya do...who cares, not me...you seem to be infatuated with it though lol

          Already explained the situation regarding Weisfeld a million times...just a waste of time with you man...again this is why you are often put on ignore on here lol.

          If you can make your point and it is obvious etc...you should be able to do it without name-calling the other side...just makes you look small and makes your opinion seem really biased imo...like you have an agenda.

          I try and give you chances on here since every time I take you off ignore you come into my threads lol...but just try and keep it a little more grown-up from now on my friend...you kind of come in to these threads sometimes and just ruin the mood...we are all here to talk boxing, and as a 65 year old man you shouldn't be acting like a teenager when it comes to debating.

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            #55
            Originally posted by KingHippo
            A robbery is any close fight the guy you like loses or the guy you hate wins
            Kind of...I do feel there are clear examples of robberies, but yes a lot of times it is the situation you mentioned.

            Wilder-Fury for example...Wilder can pretty clearly get to 5 rounds imo, and he did on my card...so I can't say a draw was a robbery there.

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            • KingHippo
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              #56
              Originally posted by aboutfknredy
              Wilder-Fury for example...Wilder can pretty clearly get to 5 rounds imo, and he did on my card...so I can't say a draw was a robbery there.
              There has never been a heavyweight fight when the challenger hit the canvas twice, wasn't awarded a loss, and still was allegedly "robbed".

              No need to check. This would've been impossible in any other era.

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              • Marchegiano
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                #57
                I just look for what the judges were looking for once I have their scorecards. So, I don't hardly speak about robberies 'cause I don't hardly see any.

                Historical robberies are easier.

                Mendoza was robbed against Jackson

                Molineaux was screwed over against Cribb

                Fitzsimmons in the Earp-Sharkey affair

                Godfrey against Primo

                Yankee Sullivan against John Morrissey

                Pretty much all of the robberies I talk about.

                **** like Krusher shouldn't have suffered so many **** shots really doesn't mean anything to me. Krusher is very lucky he lives in a nice, safe, cushy era where ***** ass fans can cry for him about what the ref calls low blows.

                Pac lost all the fights he's lost, and, if the judges went against him in some of his closer matches, like JMM before the KO, I'd've understood that. Pac's a ****in' crybaby who doesn't know what it's like to actually get robbed.

                Tyson's Fury's ass should be over the moon with his Draw. So should Deontay Wilder's ungrateful ass. Both them childs need to man the **** up and admit, 1.) Mister Fury you hardly won punch count and punch count alone is not a strong argument for victory. 2.) Mister Wilder needs to recognize Jack Reiss is well with in his ****in' right to slow count so even if the count was slow suck it the **** up and hit the mother ****er harder.

                I really don't give a ****. If robbery amounts to the judges not going your way in a close fight you're a *****ass.

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                • Boxing_1013
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by KingHippo
                  There has never been a heavyweight fight when the challenger hit the canvas twice, wasn't awarded a loss, and still was allegedly "robbed".

                  No need to check. This would've been impossible in any other era.
                  That was always basically my stance too...you can't hit the floor twice and then call robbery....MAYBE if you dominated every second of every other round...but that very rarely happens in any fight, especially if you got KD twice.

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                  • Boxing_1013
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Marchegiano
                    I just look for what the judges were looking for once I have their scorecards. So, I don't hardly speak about robberies 'cause I don't hardly see any.

                    Historical robberies are easier.

                    Mendoza was robbed against Jackson

                    Molineaux was screwed over against Cribb

                    Fitzsimmons in the Earp-Sharkey affair

                    Godfrey against Primo

                    Yankee Sullivan against John Morrissey

                    Pretty much all of the robberies I talk about.

                    **** like Krusher shouldn't have suffered so many **** shots really doesn't mean anything to me. Krusher is very lucky he lives in a nice, safe, cushy era where ***** ass fans can cry for him about what the ref calls low blows.

                    Pac lost all the fights he's lost, and, if the judges went against him in some of his closer matches, like JMM before the KO, I'd've understood that. Pac's a ****in' crybaby who doesn't know what it's like to actually get robbed.

                    Tyson's Fury's ass should be over the moon with his Draw. So should Deontay Wilder's ungrateful ass. Both them childs need to man the **** up and admit, 1.) Mister Fury you hardly won punch count and punch count alone is not a strong argument for victory. 2.) Mister Wilder needs to recognize Jack Reiss is well with in his ****in' right to slow count so even if the count was slow suck it the **** up and hit the mother ****er harder.

                    I really don't give a ****. If robbery amounts to the judges not going your way in a close fight you're a *****ass.
                    I can't speak to the historical ones you mentioned...the others I largely agree with...I will say Kov-Ward 1 was the worst robbery in a big fight that I ever watched live.

                    Fight 2 had some legitimate controversy with the 'low blows'...especially imo since the fight ended with at least 2 clearly low shots...but that being said, I don't think Kov handled the low tactics exceptionally well, and I don't give him a pass there...just wish there was more of a conclusive ending to that/those fight(s).

                    Also I never watched most of Manny's fights...but vs Horn I thought Horn was slightly the better man that night and had 0 issue with him winning.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Boxing1013
                      Lol! good stuff man...
                      Fans like them makes it easy to hate who they root for

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