Would Porter give Pac the same problems Horn did??

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  • dibzvincent143
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    #31
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    First, I think Pac got robbed against Horn. But, everyone saw that Pac was bothered by the physicality and bullying. He didn't have a lot of answers for that. Porter is a much higher level bully that Horn.
    Whatcha think??
    Pac is the better fighter for sure but is this a "styles make fights" thing?...
    Yes... pac will struggle against the style of porter.. at 40 pac no longer has the stamina to fight like that.. in his prime of course he beats both handily..

    I’ll be scared for pac to fight porter than spence.. at least the way spence fights he’ll give the pacman space and room to operate his own shots and breathe..

    Porter will tire out old Manny with that mauling and aggression.. hell even a young bigger powerful spence was taken to deep waters. Porter will push smaller pac towards the corner most of the time if he can do that to spence

    I do think porter is better than Horn.. horn gets spark in there by spence as well.
    Pac came underprepared against horn and paid the price for it... i still think he did enough to win that ugly fight.. when i rewatched it it’s 8-4 or 7-5 for pac if you’re being generous.. but horn was very live in there up to the last round
    Last edited by dibzvincent143; 09-30-2019, 05:33 AM.

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    • Ryannn
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      #32
      Originally posted by FredRekk
      This is boxing scene where people don’t much about boxing. They just follow a hype train wherever it goes.

      Porter tried that style with PAC he’s getting dropped at least 2-3 times by the 6th round, and then he’s gonna change the style up to adapt and PAC cruises to a UD. Even now at 40.

      I can’t believe members of a board called “boxing scene” really know very little about boxing/boxers. Astounding to me.
      I think Bud definitely beats Manny at this point. Spence probably still beats Manny but I am not as sure after the Porter fight.

      I thought him fighting Thurman was a toss up but Pacquiao stepped up.

      Porter gets absolutely destroyed. That bull rushing style he has is absolutely tailor made for pacquiao's lead left.

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      • FredRekk
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        #33
        Originally posted by Ryannn
        I think Bud definitely beats Manny at this point. Spence probably still beats Manny but I am not as sure after the Porter fight.

        I thought him fighting Thurman was a toss up but Pacquiao stepped up.

        Porter gets absolutely destroyed. That bull rushing style he has is absolutely tailor made for pacquiao's lead left.
        The only problems Spence really poses to Manny at this point is size factor. Other than that, pac beats him in all other areas still even at 40.

        I’d say Crawford would be much tougher fight than spence for Manny. Slick style difficult to crack for Manny at this point but still PAC has good chance beating them both.

        He beats Porter for sure. Folks must really be in denial to not sit there and comprehend how PAC defeats foes.

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        • tokon
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          #34
          Originally posted by jaded
          Yes but you quoted me saying...



          I said it would be hard fight...and that I think Manny would win a hard fight .
          Yes, understood, difference of opinion is never a problem! We'll only find out who's right if Manny fights porter next year, which is a possibility. Thanks

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            #35
            Yes, he has the style matchup to really bother old Pac.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Ryannn
              Am I the only one who think that Porter gets murked by Pacquiao?

              People are putting too much stock on the Horn fight and Porter being unexpectedly competitive against Spence.

              Pacquiao whooped Hatton and Margarito, who are better pressure fighters than Porter.

              Yes, that was absolute prime Pacquiao but he still has the awkward footwork and hand speed that would be an absolute nightmare for pressure fighters.

              You don't beat Pacquiao by bullying him. The Horn fight is one of the worst robberies in recent memory.

              Bullying Pacquiao is a terrible fight plan even at this stage of his career and any trainer who suggests that should be fired

              Hatton and margarito was like 10 years ago. That is the whole point with Horn, Horn was a C level fighter whose style match up made Pac struggle. Pac from the margo fight or hatton fight would have knocked Horn out.

              People should have expected Porter to trouble spence, every loss Porter had was competitive. Spence was crazy thinking he would get a knockout. The Thurman and Brook that Porter had competitive fights with were more prime and uninjured, they were not the same guys they are today.

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              • Ryannn
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                #37
                Originally posted by el***
                Hatton and margarito was like 10 years ago. That is the whole point with Horn, Horn was a C level fighter whose style match up made Pac struggle. Pac from the margo fight or hatton fight would have knocked Horn out.

                People should have expected Porter to trouble spence, every loss Porter had was competitive. Spence was crazy thinking he would get a knockout. The Thurman and Brook that Porter had competitive fights with were more prime and uninjured, they were not the same guys they are today.
                I don't know man. I'm not trying underrate Shawn. I just don't see Shawn troubling Pac at all even at this stage. I wouldn't even bet on Shawn that showed up the other night against Spence.

                Shawn's style is tailor made for Pac. Even 40 year old-out of prime-gasses out in the middle of the fight Pac beats Shawn 99 times out if 100.

                The Horn fight is a poor basis on how Pac vs. Shawn would go down.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ryannn
                  I don't know man. I'm not trying underrate Shawn. I just don't see Shawn troubling Pac at all even at this stage. I wouldn't even bet on Shawn that showed up the other night against Spence.

                  Shawn's style is tailor made for Pac. Even 40 year old-out of prime-gasses out in the middle of the fight Pac beats Shawn 99 times out if 100.

                  The Horn fight is a poor basis on how Pac vs. Shawn would go down.
                  The Horn fight? Lol not even a close comparison. A more similar comparison would be Hatton. Horn was allowed all that physicality because of the red, that’s all.

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                  • Richard G
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                    #39
                    Horn's style exposed Packy so I would have thought it obvious that Porter would have a definite advantage in styles too given that they are similar. That plus Porter showed us against Spence that he can go 12 hard rounds, something that Packy has shown he has trouble with now.

                    This seems to be one of those Packy biased topics, as usual it's attracting lots of one sided comment that's ignoring relevant fight results.

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