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  • #31
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    none of those guys last 12 rounds with Wilder except maybe Fury
    Miller and Povetkin stand a better chance than anyone he listed not Fury or Usyk. I think Usyk is the real deal but we will see how to responds in a firefight with legit HW contenders.

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    • #32
      Tyson Fury, Ruiz, Joshua and Whyte can beat Wilder

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
        Tyson Fury, Ruiz, Joshua and Whyte can beat Wilder
        Whyte is very open for counter rights, I don't think he pulls it off . Ruiz is very heavy footed with short reach he gets sparked out . Much of what the thread is about is true, only Wilder fans pretend he's immune to losing when he's the most likely to lose every fight if he fights legit guys ,no punch can change that he really is 2 and 1 with legit fights, i counted Breazeale as well.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
          Guess we haven’t hit the ******ed thread/post quota yet.

          So special thanks to Redeemer and Juggernaut666. Wanna bring in ****EM too so all three of your ***gy Alts can talk to yourself?
          Again the B.ITCH here who blocks posters but responds ? Put up your account B.Itch if you think **** Em who I already said is annoying as hell ? Stop hiding like a PUZZY if you persue them accusations ? Don't be a Wilder. lol

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          • #35
            Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
            Jesus f.ucking. Christ

            Wilders the longest reigning strap holder in the sport defended it what 8-9 so far & if he gets past Ortiz his reign will be among the top 10 all time at HW

            Yet none of that matters he should be ranked 7th according to this clown , Wilder now loses to Wallin who hasn’t beaten a top 100 fighter in his career

            Wilder haters who’ve largely gone MIA since AJ got Molly whopped against Ruiz need to Accept Wilder Is #1 right now even if AJ beats Ruiz in the rematch he’s no better then 3 and will only move To #2 because he’ll leapfrog the loser of Fury / Wilder if they fight ,
            1) Everyone knows there are levels in the HW division. The likes of Stiverne, Duhapas, molina, arreola, spiltka, brezeale, washington..are rubbish...complete trash and are not worth mentioning at all.
            look at Chisora did to Spilka
            There's a higher class of fighters who we've all wanted to see Wilder get involved with. Keep in mind I was disappointed Wilder never stepped up to dethrone either of the klitschko's, he had the time to do it and did jack ****. He didn't even box the guys a tier below them until it was absolutely necessary.

            2) When he did box Ortiz, he needed dodgy doctor to give him recovery time. Even though ortiz was hurt far more and didn't get that.
            He needed to cheat heavily with rabbit punches and wrestling ortiz right in front of the ref.
            to top it off, ortiz failed the medical 1 hour before the fight with high blood pressure.
            so in our view, wilder didn't prove himself. He didnt beat a parker or a whyte. in fact, he made it as difficult as possible for those guys to get that fight.

            He did lose to Tyson Fury, a 50% Tyson fury.
            Now you're acting like beating a guy he already beat, will add credibility to his name. The ortiz fight wont prove anything.

            3) aj losing doesnt magically make wilder's resume any better.
            4) there are even more HWs now, will wilder go through them all? eg the likes of Joe Joyce, Daniel Dubois, Hrgovic, Gassiev, Usyk, Yoka, Ajagba? will he decide to beat the likes of Parker, Povetkin, Pulev?

            i don'tt hink he is interested in most of those fights. Yoka and Ajagba are with Al haymon i think, so it will be easier to make those fights. He can easily get the Daniel dubois or joe joyce fights.
            5) there's a part of the brain, that's primitive and simple. if you're one of those people who lacks brain development, you're dominated by that part of the brain. it manifests as racism,jealousy, anger, xenophobia..eg it is all based around 'me/us vs you', that dog eat dog mindset.
            That is what i see from a lot of the BLACK yanks. That's why forums, youtube, twitter, reddit is littered with
            'dem ***** ASS (black yanks most used word) aj fans'
            'dem ***** ass wilder haters'
            'dem ***** assesez'
            'dem eddie hurnz is a liar'

            the reality is that 'wilder haters' are just speaking facts about wilder's resume and history. british boxing fans, are not anti-american. Ali, Foreman, Mike Tyson, Floyd mayweather, they all got love here. Devin Haney is here right now, he's talking about the love he's getting from british fans.
            Why is it wilder is the only one most don't like now? back in 2013 when wilder beat fraudley harrison, wilder was well received.
            it changed because all wilder and his fans do is lie when his resume is called into question.
            it turns into
            'dem ***** ASS hurnzez, dem ***** ass ass juicez, dem ***** ass gypsies'
            it's like
            Fury to Wilder: i don't need no one to come into my body to help me, only the power of God from above
            months later, Wilder to Fury: ya gypsy magickzez helpeded ya, no mo gippsee magickzez

            i used to like wilder btw, i thought he was a humble guy, down on his luck struggling with a mexican promoter who doesnt care about his black fighters..and then under al haymon, without a proper promoter. unfortunately, pbc is a cult. just another projection of that american BLACK 'we wuz kangz' hoodrat ****.

            in any context where the truth about wilder's poor resume (relatively speaking) is spoken, you guys pop out with your low class comments.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Ray* View Post
              100% agree with you, not his biggest fan but i dont endorse those list of names at all, especially not that mummy Joyce.
              All you guys were proven wrong when Wallin fought Fury and mocked me ,what reason do you think now a guy who needs to K.O someone for a win deals with better upcoming talent pool on the horizon which I named ?

              Breazeale was very close to putting Wilders lights out but he grazed him them backed up,.the thing is wilder wont take a good punch and bt better boxers,we went through this ,I bet you guys will be saying the same things I am if Ortiz defeats him and pretend you knew. Ha

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              • #37
                Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                Wilder can only hope for a K.O to overcome style disasters at this point if he fights top level with younger guys who can move and box he's going to lose a lot of fights that's why he wants heavy footed Ruiz to win instead of long range AJ . Haymon knows it as well that's why he saving Kownacki as possible opponents and didn't let him.fight AJ either. The only short guy
                I listed was Usyk but he's on another boxing level.



                there is nothing to indicate that Usyk can beat any of the top 3 heavyweights

                not sure if he could beat Parker

                he had his hands full with Tony Bellew

                and nope, I am not a hater... Usyk is excellent, and a top bloke

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                  there is nothing to indicate that Usyk can beat any of the top 3 heavyweights

                  not sure if he could beat Parker

                  he had his hands full with Tony Bellew

                  and nope, I am not a hater... Usyk is excellent, and a top bloke
                  Nothing to indicate except countless WSOb bouts and the klitschkos backing him while he dispalys excellent vids of training ? Not sure you really believe that ,no one would who has followed Usyk . Gold medal and ability to adapt pedigree ,hes going to fight AJ after Ruiz fight, watch .

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                    All you guys were proven wrong when Wallin fought Fury and mocked me ,what reason do you think now a guy who needs to K.O someone for a win deals with better upcoming talent pool on the horizon which I named ?

                    Breazeale was very close to putting Wilders lights out but he grazed him them backed up,.the thing is wilder wont take a good punch and bt better boxers,we went through this ,I bet you guys will be saying the same things I am if Ortiz defeats him and pretend you knew. Ha
                    Look, I am the first guy that wants to see Wilder get beaten, but I just don`t see guys like Hrgovic, Joyce to accomplish that.

                    I give some other fighters more chance, maybe I forgot to mention Rivas.

                    Breazeale was stopped in FIRST round ice cold, so, lets stop pretending he was a threat lol.

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                    • #40
                      Obviously a troll thread but anyway, i laugh when people say Wilder is a knockout/defeat waiting to happen etc.. or this guy and that guy will beat him.

                      They used to say Povetkin and Ortiz would beat him, like in the same fashion as this thread. Well he knocked Ortiz out and Povetkin was too scared to fight him clean.

                      Fury did beat him, but Fury is the best heavyweight on the planet at his best. Let’s not forget he was the only fighter that could dethrone Wlad. So being 2nd best behind Fury is no shame. Wilder beats the rest at this point. Usyk is a wild card at HW but until he makes any statements at HW, i don’t include him.

                      As for Ruiz, yeah you can put him up there now, he might even win the rematch but he would lose those belts once he faced Wilder or Fury. He’ll be on borrowed time even if he gets past AJ again.

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