Why does Crawford deserve a Spence fight? Who has he fought?

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  • fourtheboys96
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    #31
    I think the valid question is "What did Spence do to deserve a fight with Crawford?"

    He got a belt against a decent Brook then suddenly he is P4P material? WTF is that?

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    • MastaBlasta
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      #32
      Originally posted by Bob Haymon
      People in this forum don't think a p4p fighter deserves a fight with Spence but Haney is entitled to a Loma fight. It's that fanboy mentality. Blatant ducks are justified by pathetic excuses and other fighters who are actually trying to unify belts are called coward because they won't immediately fight the young prospect everyone's got a hard on for.
      No one ever "deserves" a fight. But most have no problem with Crawford and Spence fighting. PBC dealing with Arum won't happen until Arum is ready to make real compromise, not just mouth-noise, per promoting the fight and networks (unfortunate, but anyone who knows Arum over the years understands).

      P4P ratings are hype, mean next to nothing in the ring.

      Haney vs Loma? Why not? Or it can wait. No problems.

      Expecting a division to dance to your music because "you want to unify the belts" is laughable. Everyone has to fight their way in and up. Spence called out the top dogs as soon as he arrived. Porter is the second to respond years later, with Kell Brook being the first (and Spence had to fight into a position to be IBF mandatory).

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      • MastaBlasta
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        #33
        Originally posted by fourtheboys96
        I think the valid question is "What did Spence do to deserve a fight with Crawford?"

        He got a belt against a decent Brook then suddenly he is P4P material? WTF is that?
        That's plain silly. Crawford wasn't even in the division when Spence won his belt, after fighting years to get the mandatory.

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        • chaosisme
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          #34
          This promoter fanboy sh.it is too much. Go educate yourself and watch a Cosme Rivera fight. The real top ten pound for pounder.

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          • Bob Haymon
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            #35
            Originally posted by MastaBlasta
            No one ever "deserves" a fight. But most have no problem with Crawford and Spence fighting. PBC dealing with Arum won't happen until Arum is ready to make real compromise, not just mouth-noise, per promoting the fight and networks (unfortunate, but anyone who knows Arum over the years understands).

            P4P ratings are hype, mean next to nothing in the ring.

            Haney vs Loma? Why not? Or it can wait. No problems.

            Expecting a division to dance to your music because "you want to unify the belts" is laughable. Everyone has to fight their way in and up. Spence called out the top dogs as soon as he arrived. Porter is the second to respond years later, with Kell Brook being the first (and Spence had to fight into a position to be IBF mandatory).
            It's not just hype. There's near unanimous consensus in the boxing industry that Crawford is one of the top fighters in the world.

            Arum sent Ramirez to DAZN. He's sent various fighters to the UK. He works with every promoter there is. Many of the relevant fighters in the Top Rank stable are co-promoted by somebody else. Arum don't compromise is the go-to logical fallacy when someone needs to justify behavior damaging to the sport.

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            • R_Walken
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              #36
              Originally posted by MastaBlasta
              Not really. Spence doesn't pull a canelo-type weight gain on fight night. He has to make 147 like Bud does, there won't be much of a size difference.
              Not saying Spence puts on Canelo weight just he’s has a naturally bigger frame compared to Bud , I think there will be a size difference if they fought and that could be a deciding factor Bud has never fought a Natural Big WW ( Horn doesn’t count ) , I could be wrong

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              • daggum
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                #37
                he beat jeff horn who beat pac who just beat pbc's second best guy.

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                • Zaroku
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                  #38
                  he deserves everything hes got

                  as a *** i cant eat cat fish

                  bud can fight

                  the reference he eats catfish

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                  • Zaroku
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by MastaBlasta
                    No one ever "deserves" a fight. But most have no problem with Crawford and Spence fighting. PBC dealing with Arum won't happen until Arum is ready to make real compromise, not just mouth-noise, per promoting the fight and networks (unfortunate, but anyone who knows Arum over the years understands).

                    P4P ratings are hype, mean next to nothing in the ring.

                    Haney vs Loma? Why not? Or it can wait. No problems.

                    Expecting a division to dance to your music because "you want to unify the belts" is laughable. Everyone has to fight their way in and up. Spence called out the top dogs as soon as he arrived. Porter is the second to respond years later, with Kell Brook being the first (and Spence had to fight into a position to be IBF mandatory).
                    nice

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by mcdonalds
                      Bro you gave me green a couple of days ago

                      Cut me some slack

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